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Old 09-19-2014, 02:05 PM
 
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They got duped by the companies funding the efforts. What was accomplished? Not much other than stores now charging for any type of bag to carry out the very things you pay them for. The plastic bag laws only served to allow stores to charge you for something else.
You were always charged for plastic bags - their cost was just added to the price of your groceries. Giving the consumer no incentive to do anything but get as many as possible and treat them as a throw-away item afterwards. Presto, litter.

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Proof? Go to a Home Depot or Lowes and watch as some people buy PLASTIC lawn and garden bags and then put them into recyclable bags to carry them to the car. Hello?
You'd be surprised how much more careful people are with their consumption habits once the cost of something is visible.
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Old 09-19-2014, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Volcano
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You were always charged for plastic bags - their cost was just added to the price of your groceries. Giving the consumer no incentive to do anything but get as many as possible and treat them as a throw-away item afterwards. Presto, litter.

You'd be surprised how much more careful people are with their consumption habits once the cost of something is visible.
EXACTLY!!!
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Old 09-19-2014, 03:48 PM
 
Location: DC
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We get charged a nickel per bag if you don't bring your own bag. That has made a huge difference in people's behavior.
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Old 09-19-2014, 03:57 PM
 
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I still use plastic ...
I'm more concerned with the coming environmental mess our over use of consumer electronics will cause.
Mostly BTW made in China.
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Old 09-19-2014, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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i think we need to get rid of the plastic water bottles. they are everywhere
Doesn't New York have a deposit on plastic water bottles? At a nickel a shot, most of them get recycled.

The problem with plastic grocery bags is that they get loose, blow around, and kill wildlife.
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Old 09-19-2014, 06:31 PM
 
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I still use plastic ...
I'm more concerned with the coming environmental mess our over use of consumer electronics will cause.
Mostly BTW made in China.
I sometimes think too many resources are going into the small things, all the while not tackling the large scale environmental issues. A little here and there helps of course, but there are some large scale things that I feel people do not really consider, or take too seriously because it is not so in people's faces, and it would cause more of an impact on people's lifestyles.
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Old 09-19-2014, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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What would they sell water in then?

What about products like cola?

dont the have juice drinks in like cardboard contaioner, i know my kids used to have them, that would be recycleable



PS: I dont think it pertains to the water bottles like poland spring, etc.....
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Old 09-19-2014, 07:34 PM
 
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Every trash bag I have bought are safe for landfills as they decay overtime.
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Old 09-19-2014, 08:14 PM
 
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i think we need to get rid of the plastic water bottles. they are everywhere
My past two resident states charged deposits on plastic bottles. Now I'm in GA. "Naw, just toss them suckers." I do use the recycle bin on trash day.

I too use the plastic grocery bags for my bathroom trashcans. And I use them for doggy doody bags.
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Old 09-19-2014, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Boston
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One problem at a time is the very reason the problem exists in the first place.

Instead of addressing the real problem, supporting the idea of making recyclable plastic bags, the do-gooders simply ban plastic bags. Just how does that solve the problem? It just creates new problems.

That is the way the do-gooders work though, instead of fixing things, create yet new problems so that the few are enriched so they can continue "the process" of one problem at a time. They don't really want to solve problems, they love the process.

One problem at a time is how we ended up with most of the serious problem we have. Trusting the one problem at a time people only insures there will be an endless supply of problems, most of them created by the one problem at a time people.

The solution was recyclable plastic bags, not banning them. The solution was new packaging methods that allow for easy carry of products. The solution was using some brain power instead of control power.

When was the last time the one problem at a time people ever solved a problem that didn't create a multitude of new problems? Name one time.


Results matter not, its their intentions that are important.

Certainly, the ensuing mess of their intentions are not their fault though. Its probably your fault. Or mine - but certainly not theirs.

Loathe these people....
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