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I wonder what the stats are regarding te youth and schools in more rural areas.
A friend had an electronics class in high school. I'm just few years older and we had wood shop and auto shop. My children grew up in a very rural area and they had auto shop as well. I was actually a bit mad because my younger son got removed from the class as the school thought he was too young; when it was the older kids doing the dumb stuff. But that did not hurt my son. He is now is the mechanic for one of the Coast Guard rollover boats. He's the one that fixes the stuff no one else can.
His older brother is also into building and fixing. My oldest son is just 24 and is living in a cabin he pretty much built all by himself.
The town I currently live in has a welding class and auto shop still.
So I think the main 'problem' here now is access. If the schools in big cities do not offer these types of classes, how are the children going to get interested and learn?
We rent a off-grid solar home as a vacation rental. Once you deplete the batteries the generator starts running to recharge the batteries.
The WWII generation was the greatest in my eyes. Those folks could turn off lights and conserve energy. It goes rapidly downhill from there as people get younger. There is a bump upward for people with small kids. It must be they keep telling the kids to turn off the lights when they are not using them.
As a general rule the 20's are a disaster. I have had generator run times that are truly amazing. What were they doing to use so much electricity!!! The dryer, fridge, stove, oven, hot water heater, furnace ALL run on propane. I actually have asked a group, what did you have plugged in??.....nothing was the reply.
The other note is the more environmentally oriented people proclaim themselves the greater than electrical use. I suspect these folks tend to have a much, much less science education and really do not understand the little electricity that even a large solar array generates. Then they also recycle and maybe that in their minds that meets their environmental commitment and therefore they do not have to turn off the lights!!
There are always exceptions to the rule. This past week three couples from South Africa in their 20's and 30's rented the cabin. Generator never started.
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I wonder what the stats are regarding te youth and schools in more rural areas.
A friend had an electronics class in high school. I'm just few years older and we had wood shop and auto shop. My children grew up in a very rural area and they had auto shop as well. I was actually a bit mad because my younger son got removed from the class as the school thought he was too young; when it was the older kids doing the dumb stuff. But that did not hurt my son. He is now is the mechanic for one of the Coast Guard rollover boats. He's the one that fixes the stuff no one else can.
His older brother is also into building and fixing. My oldest son is just 24 and is living in a cabin he pretty much built all by himself.
The town I currently live in has a welding class and auto shop still.
So I think the main 'problem' here now is access. If the schools in big cities do not offer these types of classes, how are the children going to get interested and learn?
LOL..so lack of a high paying job is the reason they don't try to fix their broken "stuff" ?
I would think lack of a high paying job would be an incentive to fix their stuff rather than throw it out and buy a new one.
Seems to me the more money the millennials make the less they actually do..they hire others to do it for them.
Your argument still makes no sense. Why should millenials spend days learning about appliances when they work 60 hrs a wk? Guess Teabaggers like to make little worlds for themselves.
Also, ever hear of youtube? There are plenty of howto vids there that are made by - young people.
I don't doubt that there are inept millenialists. But there are also inept gen xers, inept boomers, and even inept silent generation.
Never fear, the urge to fix and tinker is not disappearing. There is nothing new about old farts pronouncing that a succeeding generation is deficient. I think they're just jealous.
Says this geezer, who thinks the younger generations are full of creative people who are making their presence felt at much younger ages than my generation ever did.
jac,watching a you tube video it not the same as 1 on 1 interaction with a teacher - parent - friend.
Being able to you tube almost anything is another nail in the coffin of real human interaction.A computer is a tool , not an answer to all of everyone's problems.
jac,watching a you tube video it not the same as 1 on 1 interaction with a teacher - parent - friend.
Being able to you tube almost anything is another nail in the coffin of real human interaction.A computer is a tool , not an answer to all of everyone's problems.
You should read the OP. This thread is about people fixing things vs throwing them away and not about human interaction. The reality is that there are a few things going on.
1. People are using things like HGTV and Google to fix more things than they used to in the past.
2. People are inherently replacing things that aren't broken more often (typically electronics).
3. Items that used to be more user-serviceable are much less so today (computers, TVs, and even many appliances.
In the US, where more people are doing their own plumbing and electrical work than ever before, it's not surprising to see that they are also repairing appliances more than in the past. A lot of this is attributed to stores like Home Depot and Lowes being in you face when you need them.
Total nonsense. If something breaks, kids google how to fix it and have it running again in seconds. Its the old rich lazy boomers who have huge houses full of inoperable garbage because they have no clue how to internet.
I agree. I learned how to do so many things that I would have never thought to do just by watchign a Youtube video. At first it was out of necessity, I needed something done at a time when nothign was open or i didn't have the money to do it. But now I like to do it. It's really reqrding being able to do small things for myself. I installed a ceiling fan in my son's bedroom where there used to only be a light. I was scared to death I was going to kill myself but i watched the videos, went to home depot and got it done.
You should read the OP. This thread is about people fixing things vs throwing them away and not about human interaction. The reality is that there are a few things going on.
You should read the last poster I was responding to...
Typical.
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Also, ever hear of youtube? There are plenty of howto vids there that are made by - young people.
I don't doubt that there are inept millenialists. But there are also inept gen xers, inept boomers, and even inept silent generation.
Never fear, the urge to fix and tinker is not disappearing. There is nothing new about old farts pronouncing that a succeeding generation is deficient. I think they're just jealous.
Says this geezer, who thinks the younger generations are full of creative people who are making their presence felt at much younger ages than my generation ever did.
You should read the OP. This thread is about people fixing things vs throwing them away and not about human interaction. The reality is that there are a few things going on.
1. People are using things like HGTV and Google to fix more things than they used to in the past.
2. People are inherently replacing things that aren't broken more often (typically electronics).
3. Items that used to be more user-serviceable are much less so today (computers, TVs, and even many appliances.
In the US, where more people are doing their own plumbing and electrical work than ever before, it's not surprising to see that they are also repairing appliances more than in the past. A lot of this is attributed to stores like Home Depot and Lowes being in you face when you need them.
I call BS on those 3 points,prove it!
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