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Old 07-21-2016, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Midwest, USA
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I do the same thing and recycle everything I can. I don't need to pay for garbage service, as I rarely have anything needing to go to the dump. The franchised garbage hauler in our part of town also picks up recyclables. Since they make a little money from them, they allow non-subscribers like me to put out a basket of mixed recyclables (not including glass) every two weeks, at no charge. But they don't accept plastic bags, although all grocery stores let you put them in their barrels. The rare item of glass I have, goes into the appropriate bin of a nearby friend.
This is how I recycled my plastic bags before my city started accepting them. I'm grateful that I can now add them to my recycling tote.

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The store patrons in the no plastic bag town nearby, which is dominated by a large university with a terminal case of PC to the extreme, would probably subject me to public shaming, if they spotted a plastic bag poking out of my pocket. Imagine, if you will, how it would be if a teen-aged boy at a religious school had a condom fall out of his pocket during communion.
Lol.
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Old 07-22-2016, 05:21 AM
 
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I don't understand the logic in choosing a cloth shopping bag that isn't washable.
I don't think everyone realizes that these bags can harbor bacteria and need to be washed. Where do you find the washable bags? I haven't seen any that look washable in the grocery.
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Old 07-22-2016, 06:22 AM
 
Location: The analog world
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They're nylon bags (yes, technically plastic, but not single use), and they're shaped like the plastic bags you get at the grocery store just a little larger. I received them as a gift, but I've seen similar bags for sale at places like Container Store, Target, etc. My produce bags are cotton mesh, and the bulk bags are hemp. I believe I bought them at Whole Foods. All go in the laundry with the kitchen linens between visits to the store.
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Old 07-22-2016, 06:34 AM
 
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I don't think everyone realizes that these bags can harbor bacteria and need to be washed. Where do you find the washable bags? I haven't seen any that look washable in the grocery.
They're all washable.
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Old 07-22-2016, 06:36 AM
 
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Plastic farmers? Seriously?

Clearly, you know nothing about logging or tree farmers.

You do know that trees can be planted and grown to be harvested again, right? They are PLANTS.

By your logic, we should never eat vegetables either.
However, the trucks which carry them around as logs and as bags run on diesel. That's not renewable.
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Old 07-22-2016, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Gardner, MA
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I don't think everyone realizes that these bags can harbor bacteria and need to be washed. Where do you find the washable bags? I haven't seen any that look washable in the grocery.
If you do a web search for canvas tote bags, you'll find many places to buy them. One of our smaller bags (smaller as in closer to a handled plastic bag size, rather than standard tote) came from my MIL who got it at Whole Foods. We don't have one of those near here, and our local stores all sell the "recycled plastic" weave ones.

I got my produce bags from Non-Plastic Bags | Life Without Plastic. They also have a few more on their Eating/Food Bags page.
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Old 07-23-2016, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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Plastic farmers? Seriously?

Clearly, you know nothing about logging or tree farmers.

You do know that trees can be planted and grown to be harvested again, right? They are PLANTS.

By your logic, we should never eat vegetables either.
It depends on how LONG it takes to renew the resource in comparison to how long you use the product. If you only use a paper bag once for a 1/2 hour to get your groceries home and that took partt a tree that required years to grow...that is STUPID. At least reserve renewable resources for things that last. It's a little tougher when it comes to food but most crops grow in weeks or months, not years. Fruit trees don't count because they are "perennials".
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Old 07-23-2016, 07:27 PM
 
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As a smartass bagger once asked me, "Kill a tree, or choke a fish?"
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Old 07-23-2016, 10:21 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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However, the trucks which carry them around as logs and as bags run on diesel. That's not renewable.
No need to run any diesel vehicle on dino diesel. There are many green options for diesel fuel equivalent.

40 yrs and 3million miles on my daily driver. 50 mpg, no dinosaurs or toxic batteries required.
My latest alternative fuel spare vehicle cost me $35 for the whole car. It will last the rest of my life.

Definately do not use Plastic or paper bags. Re-use fabric bags are the way to go. Wash them using your antique washboard. (Or dog powered treadmill wash machine.)
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Old 07-24-2016, 08:45 AM
 
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No need to run any diesel vehicle on dino diesel. There are many green options for diesel fuel equivalent.

40 yrs and 3million miles on my daily driver. 50 mpg, no dinosaurs or toxic batteries required.
My latest alternative fuel spare vehicle cost me $35 for the whole car. It will last the rest of my life.

Definately do not use Plastic or paper bags. Re-use fabric bags are the way to go. Wash them using your antique washboard. (Or dog powered treadmill wash machine.)
And which of those renewable options does the logging company which ships the trees, the paper comapny that makes the paper, the bag company which makes the bags, and the company which delivers to your supermarket use?

Stealthrabbit, your claims to ridiculous economic feats have been disproved many times, in many different forums. Your car didn't cost $35.
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