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Old 07-26-2017, 07:20 PM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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Actually solar is ideal for remote villages in many third world countries... Life sucks when you are on the losing end.
It's ideal if they only want to read the newspaper inside ...during the day. It gives them no "competitive edge."

BTW- when did you install your solar array, and what did you pay for it? What is it's average daily production?
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Old 07-27-2017, 05:40 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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Houston (Platts)--19 Jul 2016 557 pm EDT/2157 GMT

Midcontinent Independent System Operator real-time locational marginal prices were jumping above $200/MWh Tuesday afternoon as load neared the forecast peak for the day.

Minnesota Hub on-peak jumped as high as about $230.75/MWh around 3 pm CDT, nearly $200.50 above where the day-ahead LMP for Tuesday delivery traded.

All hubs across MISO spiked. Michigan Hub on-peak was near $190.25/MWh around 3 pm. Louisiana Hub on-peak was about $190/MWh. Illinois Hub on-peak was around $184.75/MWh. Indiana Hub on-peak was near $186.75/MWh. Arkansas Hub on-peak was roughly $148.75/MWh.
Yes it did and wind wasn't blowing here either LOL we had max generation alert burned almost 40,000 gallons of diesel and who knows how much NG......gotta love those recips
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Old 07-27-2017, 02:39 PM
 
Location: USA
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Actually solar is ideal for remote villages in many third world countries, but that's really irrelevant to what we are doing in the US, which is building solar and wind about as fast as we can. If you don't like it, that's fine. It's still going to continue to happen. Life sucks when you are on the losing end.
That's your main tactic...changing the subject.
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Old 07-28-2017, 05:12 PM
 
Location: DC
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That's your main tactic...changing the subject.
Just pointing out the obvious. The stop solar initiative was still born.
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Old 07-29-2017, 10:56 AM
 
Location: PNW
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I opted for renewable power for a few years, and it hiked in my power bills more than I appreciated. I finally dropped it.
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Old 07-30-2017, 06:37 AM
 
Location: DC
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It's ideal if they only want to read the newspaper inside ...during the day. It gives them no "competitive edge."

BTW- when did you install your solar array, and what did you pay for it? What is it's average daily production?
My house is too shaded by mature trees for pv. My son's has about 5 KW. It produces 7 - 8 MWh per year. Installed in 2010 and already paid for.
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Old 07-30-2017, 06:39 AM
 
Location: DC
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Yes it did and wind wasn't blowing here either LOL we had max generation alert burned almost 40,000 gallons of diesel and who knows how much NG......gotta love those recips
That's why they are installed. Cheap to build and available on short notice.
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Old 07-30-2017, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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I opted for renewable power for a few years, and it hiked in my power bills more than I appreciated. I finally dropped it.
With at the fossil fuel we have in the U.S., oil, natural gas, and coal, they should be considered "renewable". We are swimming in an ocean of fossil fuel with new oil field finds in Texas, and the technology to extract clean natural gas from many states in the east, and west.

Solar and wind only make up a few percent of our energy consumption. Clean coal, oil, and natural gas is what runs the world, and will for the foreseeable future. CO2 is not the demon the media, Democrats, and the green lobby make it out to be.
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Old 07-30-2017, 07:00 PM
 
Location: PNW
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With at the fossil fuel we have in the U.S., oil, natural gas, and coal, they should be considered "renewable". We are swimming in an ocean of fossil fuel with new oil field finds in Texas, and the technology to extract clean natural gas from many states in the east, and west.

Solar and wind only make up a few percent of our energy consumption. Clean coal, oil, and natural gas is what runs the world, and will for the foreseeable future. CO2 is not the demon the media, Democrats, and the green lobby make it out to be.

I agree.
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Old 08-01-2017, 04:24 PM
 
Location: DC
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With at the fossil fuel we have in the U.S., oil, natural gas, and coal, they should be considered "renewable". We are swimming in an ocean of fossil fuel with new oil field finds in Texas, and the technology to extract clean natural gas from many states in the east, and west.

Solar and wind only make up a few percent of our energy consumption. Clean coal, oil, and natural gas is what runs the world, and will for the foreseeable future. CO2 is not the demon the media, Democrats, and the green lobby make it out to be.
we didn't move from the stone age because we ran short of rocks.
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