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The scientists are mere minions. Al Gore is the God, the collector and purveyor, the lens, the concentrator, the launch pad manager and the operator of the eco-fascist trial balloons.
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We are not going to stop climate change. The Agreement was to limit the rate of human caused CO2 increases. Whether the US Government Leadership endorses greenhouse gas control or not, will be soon be not relevant. When the coastal East Coast gets pounded by hurricanes and higher mean sea levels, they will know who to blame. And the midwest gets hit with droughts and damaging hail, they too will know who to blame.
I like to know who still have incandescent edison light bulbs?
I find that the change from incandescent to CFL took less than 20 years and the change from CFL to solid state LED took less than 15.
1. I am not religious
2. I can't speak for anyone else, but I never think of Al Gore and he hasn't been in the news for a long time, as far as I know. So the rampant Al Gore obsession seems to be a GOP/climate change denier issue.
You are very religious, you just don’t know it. You worship at the altar of Gaia, and embrace faith-based reality claims from collectivist climate armageddonists. Crazy Christians dwell on End Times, and so do the purveyors of AGW nonsense. But Crazy Christians are less dangerous, because unlike the armageddonist eco-fascists, they do not want to initiate oppressive taxation and redistribution of wealth, they do not want to roll back human progress and abolish the Industrial Revolution, they do not hate and spit on the only moral economic system ever invented (Capitalism), they do not want to squash individual rights and individual freedom, and they do not want to use the police power of the state to crush the industry that gives us the cheap and plentiful energy that makes the magnificent life we all enjoy possible. So give me an End Times Christian over an End Times Armageddonist Eco-Fascist any day of the week. The Christian hurts only himself with his irrational faith. Whereas the faith-based eco-fascist wants to drag Man into the primordial ooze and crush all human progress.
So all of you discount, for example, NASA's take on climate change? You disagree with all the evidence presented on their website? https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
I can see how denying carbon dioxide impact on the climate greatly benefits the oil industry and the corporations that resent emissions controls. Just like the tobacco industry suppressed its detrimental health effects for decades. But how would moving to cleaner energy, and forcing industries to abide by tighter regulations, benefit NASA and other independent agencies? Are they all heavily invested in - and funded by - alternative fuels, like many politicians are funded in - and by - oil companies?
They do not want to believe it because it is too inconvenient to care about the dying oceans and food chains. It's happening, and we are obviously not going to care about our children, grandchildren, etc. to stop it. It's the zeitgeist "spirit of the times". Mankind has always been self destructive.
We are not going to stop climate change. The Agreement was to limit the rate of human caused CO2 increases. Whether the US Government Leadership endorses greenhouse gas control or not, will be soon be not relevant. When the coastal East Coast gets pounded by hurricanes and higher mean sea levels, they will know who to blame. And the midwest gets hit with droughts and damaging hail, they too will know who to blame.
I like to know who still have incandescent edison light bulbs?
I find that the change from incandescent to CFL took less than 20 years and the change from CFL to solid state LED took less than 15.
I know who to blame - his hair looks like a flame and his followers love his name.
My first post in this thread guessed that 100% of the posters who are calling climate change BS have a very high correlation of all belonging to the same political party. The correlation is not education, climate science education, income, etcs. It political party. And are also likely to be on the extreme of that political party. And its not everyone in that party who posts this stuff, just a handful way over on one side.
The oil and gas industry has the most to lose from doing anything about climate change. One party doesn't get 52 percent more money than the other, that party gets 522 (over five hundred) percent more money.
Did I guess correctly that there is a 100% correlation.. and what to make of the huge imbalance of funding from that industry that will lose money if climate change is addressed going to one political party?
Yes, it is the goat party that turned the star upside down in the year 2000 on their official logo. They are the ones who do not believe they have any responsibility to be a good steward of the earth.
Yes, it is the goat party that turned the star upside down in the year 2000 on their official logo. They are the ones who do not believe they have any responsibility to be a good steward of the earth.
Steward, schmeward. When stewardship equals oppressive and obliterative carbon taxation and redistribution, stewardship can be shoved you know where. When stewardship means handing over the first world to the third world under United Nations IPCC supervision, that can also be shoved where the sun don’t shine. When the climatofascists can come up with free and voluntary programs based on rational persuasion, we’ll talk. But while malice and thievery are on the table, the planet can go to hell because life under socialist slavery is not a life worth living. Better future generations never exist than live under the yoke of radical climate eco-tyranny.
It sounds like you're out of ammunition. Better to just surrender than make rude comments.
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Mankind has always been self destructive.
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I guess that's why H.sapiens has gone from a population of <500 to >7.5 Billion over the course of the last 50,000 yrs.
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Someone is sounding rather like a fanatic. It's not possible to have a reasonable discussion with fanatics.
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It's all a matter of POV: we think you guys sound like fanatics. It's you guys who focus only on the data from the last 200 yrs and disregard the bigger picture. Belief based on evidence is science. Belief without proof is religion.
It sounds like you're out of ammunition. Better to just surrender than make rude comments.
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I guess that's why H.sapiens has gone from a population of <500 to >7.5 Billion over the course of the last 50,000 yrs.
It's all a matter of POV: we think you guys sound like fanatics. It's you guys who focus only on the data from the last 200 yrs and disregard the bigger picture. Belief based on evidence is science. Belief without proof is religion.
If what one wants to understand is man's influence on climate, the last 200 years is what is germain. We continue to assess the climate of previous periods, but many had climates we would not like. There may come a time when we need to alter the natural climate cycles.
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It's not possible to have a reasonable discussion with fanatics.
