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Old 08-10-2018, 07:37 PM
 
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No climate scientist has. The people who talk about it are climate deniers. Creating strawmen.

Bull$hit. Climate scientists are not only SAYING that armageddonism is settled science. They are SUING over it:


https://www.investors.com/politics/e...ence-lawsuits/
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Old 08-10-2018, 09:01 PM
 
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It's helpful in a political cause to sell the BIG LIE. This is it in climate science. No climate scientist has said climate science is settled.
That's kind of a tautology. If they're not open to new data or theories, they're not real scientists.

Still, continued warming for a while is a pretty good guess. It is a risk like any other and should be treated that way. I'd be very surprised if it's catastrophic, but I've been surprised before.

An ECOMODERNIST MANIFESTO
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Old 08-10-2018, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Canada
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I was referring to "nearer" the poles, not near the poles. For example, if higher water temperatures were killing off the coral reefs, it would be doing so at the end of the reef nearer to the equator. If the water temperature is rising equally across the oceans, then the water near the pole end of the current reef would become more ideal for expansion of the reef. Thus the reefs would be moving north and south as the temperature slowly changed over a long period of time.
But what you are suggesting is wishful thinking. The fact is the water temperatures are not rising equally across the oceans and the temperatures are most definitely NOT changing over a long period of time. They are changing abnormally rapidly in what could be considered normal 'earth time'. Corals are very slow growers, not able to catch up and advance with the rapid changes that are happening now. More importantly, they are not the only marine life that are not able to keep up and adapt to the rapid changes throughout all marine environments. All marine life are having a difficult time surviving now.


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Old 08-10-2018, 09:40 PM
 
Location: California
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I'm critical of mankind's ability to stop whatever may come. I'm also critical of those who seem to do nothing but blame humanity for the conditions we are in. It's all very self centered and myopic.


There may be global warming and we may have had something to do with it but the only reason we are even here debating it is because of what we humans have done thus far. Maybe we can get greener, but will it really change anything if nature has a path it's taking us on? I don't know. I DO know that me not running my AC when it's >100 degrees out or driving to work instead of taking a bus or even ::gasp:: using a plastic straw isn't going to make one iota of difference.
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Old 08-11-2018, 01:55 AM
 
Location: DC
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Bull$hit. Climate scientists are not only SAYING that armageddonism is settled science. They are SUING over it:


https://www.investors.com/politics/e...ence-lawsuits/
A lie. Only the title of the article makes any claim that the science is settled.

Be better. You aren't going to get away with such blatant misrepresentations here.
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Old 08-11-2018, 01:59 AM
 
Location: DC
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That's kind of a tautology. If they're not open to new data or theories, they're not real scientists.

Still, continued warming for a while is a pretty good guess. It is a risk like any other and should be treated that way. I'd be very surprised if it's catastrophic, but I've been surprised before.

An ECOMODERNIST MANIFESTO
I suspect your advice would have been not to overreact to the Chicxulub asteroid.
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Old 08-11-2018, 05:06 AM
 
Location: Nebraska
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Climate change is a CASH COW for many. The real problem is UNNECESSARY pollution.Think about it.
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Old 08-11-2018, 06:41 AM
 
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A lie. Only the title of the article makes any claim that the science is settled.

Be better. You aren't going to get away with such blatant misrepresentations here.
Your God has proclaimed it from the mount.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...hAFnXJ2DPJfTxv
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Old 08-11-2018, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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I've always been amazed at the global warming advocates. They talk as though the earth's climate has always been the same until people and modern technology made the climate start to get warmer. YET, I was taught in school about 4 ice ages, and here in Wi., we have an ice age trail. So the scientists agree that the climate changes all the time. SO, the climate is changing again, naturally.
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Old 08-11-2018, 08:17 AM
 
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The earth has been warming, with stops and starts, and briefer periods of intermediate cooling, since the end of the Pleistocene. And yet earth is actually still in an "inter-glacial" period within an ice age on an even larger time scale. The climate is always changing. "Climate Change" was an ingenious plan designed to appropriate the natural warming trend which has been occurring for thousands of years, to scare the public for the political and or economic gains of those few who stood to benefit from the hoax. Nice try, we have all caught on (most of us, anyway, CatTX is in the cult and is being handed the kool-aid as I type this).
I believe this is the case as well. Politics + science = politics. The notion of a climate crisis whose effects can only be known in a century is used to push/guilt people towards a socialist global government. And this body wants to levy huge tax bills on populations right now. Climate alarmists want to create a sense of guilt in people and leverage that guilt to lower their resistance to these never-ending, ever-increasing tax burdens.

I've noticed all the predictions of dire consequences are 100 years out now that zero of their 30-year predictions became a reality. Convenient, huh.
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