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Old 08-01-2009, 12:10 PM
 
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Actually, I read more than the first paragraph. I read the whole article. The article does not affirm what the title leads you to believe it would. So I'd suggest you read the whole article.

I also looked at their sources cited, and I'm laughing my head off. The Union Of Concerned Scientists is a far-left alarmist organization. You might as well be talking to Al Gore!
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Old 08-01-2009, 12:12 PM
 
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Also beef farming is has one of the lowest conversion rates, so meat is an uneconmical source of protein.
Prove it.

This is yet another doltish, unsubstantiated claim that has been circulated so many times that people have begun to believe it.

You REALLY need to practice discernment. Desperately!

Now... Prove it.
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Old 08-01-2009, 12:14 PM
 
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Actually, I read more than the first paragraph. I read the whole article. The article does not affirm what the title leads you to believe it would. So I'd suggest you read the whole article.

I also looked at their sources cited, and I'm laughing my head off. The Union Of Concerned Scientists is a far-left alarmist organization. You might as well be talking to Al Gore!
So you read the bit where it says that low dose antibiotics being commonly used to help weight gain?
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Old 08-01-2009, 12:15 PM
 
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So that makes it OK?
Hormones are steroids.
Do your fathers cattle walk around outside and graze?
WRONG WRONG WRONG

Hormones are NOT steroids! Hormones are hormones. ARTIFICIAL hormones are steroids.

Again, DISCERNMENT!



And in answer to your leading, irrelevant question, yes my father's cattle are all outside - just like 99.99% of all cattle raised. Of course, if it's raining or hailing or a blizzard, they have the option of going inside.
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Old 08-01-2009, 12:15 PM
 
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Prove it.

This is yet another doltish, unsubstantiated claim that has been circulated so many times that people have begun to believe it.

You REALLY need to practice discernment. Desperately!

Now... Prove it.
You first my dear
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Old 08-01-2009, 12:16 PM
 
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So you read the bit where it says that low dose antibiotics being commonly used to help weight gain?
A claim made by some people, and disputed by others.

Again, antibiotics do NOT cause weight gain. The ONLY thing they MIGHT do is control disease, which would hinder weight gain.


You really don't understand this, do you?



Tell me Susan, where do you live? On a farm or in a big city?
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Old 08-01-2009, 12:17 PM
 
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You first my dear
YOU made the claim that corn-fed beef is the lowest and least efficient conversion.

It is YOUR responsibility to prove your claim. It is not my responsibility to prove it false.


I could just as well claim that you weigh 400 lbs. But if I make such an absurd claim, it would be MY responsibility to prove it. I could also claim that you are a pedophile. But that too would be my responsibility to claim - not your responsibility to claim false.
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Old 08-01-2009, 12:20 PM
 
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WRONG WRONG WRONG

Hormones are NOT steroids! Hormones are hormones. ARTIFICIAL hormones are steroids.

Again, DISCERNMENT!



And in answer to your leading, irrelevant question, yes my father's cattle are all outside - just like 99.99% of all cattle raised. Of course, if it's raining or hailing or a blizzard, they have the option of going inside.
Jeez you know nothing!
We have naturally produced steroid hormones in our body

Steroid hormone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 08-01-2009, 12:23 PM
 
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Jeez you know nothing!
We have naturally produced steroid hormones in our body

Steroid hormone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Well duhhhh... These are NOT synthetic steroids.

So if - as you say - steroids are natural and in every animal's body, what the problem with steroids being in livestock? Keep in mind that's YOUR fallacy, not mine.
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Old 08-01-2009, 12:23 PM
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Corn-fed beef is FAR
superior to anything else.
It's not the normal food for cows, and it wasn't until the past century that such grains were used as feed due to cost and time savings.
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