The future of CA gun laws

[SandboxQ]

Originally Posted by Bulldogdad

That's the problem with California Gun Laws they spread fear uncertainty and doubt, even amongst the law enforcement community. Which is an excellent tactic to control a group of people.

Keep them in the dark and feed them **** just like mushrooms.

I have personally educated many LEO's, mainly family and friends, on this issue.

Nothing wrong with prudence especially if you are unsure of the laws in this FUBAR state.

Yes, but it's hard to keep up with them when they seem to change monthy. Anyway, of all things legal, a 2" blade or less switchblade is. At least you guys have that.

[monkeywrenching]

Originally Posted by Nighteyes

Reason # 1 FOR living in (Southern) California: J O B S

One can rant and rave as much as one wants -- I'd STILL rather live in SoCal and be gainfully employed at a decent living wage, than to live anywhere else in this country and be completely/totally/hopelessly unemployed.

But hey, that's just my own personal (and gun-owning) opinion.

-- Nighteyes

having a job is not enough if I have to give up freedom or liberty for that job.

[ferretkona]

Originally Posted by SuperSparkle928

Transporting a gun in your car has to be in the locked trunk, unloaded? Geez, in FL you can have a loaded handgun in your glovebox.

Well one aspect of firearm transport is that it is a county issue. In many counties it is still legal to display a shotgun in the truck back window.

A lot of people, LEO as well confuse county laws as to be state laws.

A lot of people across the nation both hate and envy California. We are to blame for all issues as thou we are personally responsible.
Big business will start programs here in CA and if it works they spread east. Our government does as well. Hollywood is completely in government control. What is funny is the news, All newscasters are anti-gun but have CCW's. They want the public unarmed but want their own on hand. The first thing the news ask on our "high speed pursuits" is "Do they have guns?" they will repeatedly interrupt the CHP answering questions to ask about firearms.

CA is to blame for smog restrictions on vehicles. Gun laws and recycling (call us tree huggers, lol) even fashion.
I know a few actors and they all say the same thing. If it happens in Hollywood do not believe it. Whenever W Bush screwed up bad a actor would take a bullet to take attention off Bush, Lindsey Lohan would drive on the wrong side of the freeway. Anyone ever notice actors and actresses getting arrested days before a film release. Any attention is a free ad for a actor.

[Nighteyes]

Originally Posted by monkeywrenching

having a job is not enough if I have to give up freedom or liberty for that job.

I don't even know how to BEGIN to respond to this obvious non-sequitur ("Non-sequitur" -- a fallacious argument caused by a lack of connection between the premise and the conclusion.)

1. I have been living IN Southern California from 1988 until now. I have been successfully employed each & every danged day of my life in Southern California from 1988 until 2010. Had I remained in my home state (southeastern United States), this would not have been true.

3. As a result, both my family and I have enjoyed a more-than-acceptable standard of living, entirely BECAUSE of said employment in Southern California. (And, in fact, we are STILL enjoying said standard of living even though employment for me has been rather iffy from 2011 through present-day.)

4. I own each and every firearm and accessory that I wish to own, all of which are in compliance with the gun laws of the State of California. These include, btw, large-capacity magazines that ARE entirely legal.

5. Unless you own NFA-restricted items, I will be more than happy to compare the firearms and accessories I own to the ones you own.

In other words -- and in words that anyone may understand -- I'm calling your bluff. Show your actual, in-your-hand-right-this-minute, cards. As an alternate, you may fold and admit that I win.

Regards and best wishes,

-- Nighteyes

[my54ford]

mmmmmmI have someplace the California registration for my preban AK variant and also the letter from the state telling me I need to surrender said weapon. This was forwarded to my non-cali address and I still have the aforementioned..............It might be ok to visit but there's not a snowballs chance in the hot place I'd move back there......

[Nighteyes]

my54ford,

Talk is cheap, my friend. So far that's all you have done.

With all due respect of course,

-- Nighteyes

[Happy in Wyoming]

Originally Posted by monkeywrenching

having a job is not enough if I have to give up freedom or liberty for that job.

Those are my sentiments as well. But it's interesting; I've never had trouble finding a job where there are fewer laws than California.

Consider yourself repped; I couldn't do it officially.

Originally Posted by Nighteyes

1. I have been living IN Southern California, and have been successfully employed each & every danged day of my life in Southern California, from 1988 until 2010. Had I remained in my home (southeastern United States) state, this would not have been true.

I've never lived in California but I've never had trouble making a living anywhere else. There are millions more who can say the same.

Originally Posted by Nighteyes

3. As a result, both my family and I have enjoyed a more-than-acceptable standard of living, entirely BECAUSE of said employment in Southern California.

My standard of living has not and never will be acceptable because I'll always want more and work to get more.

Originally Posted by Nighteyes

4. I own each and every firearm and accessory that I wish to own, and all of them are in compliance with the gun laws of the State of California.

5. Unless you own NFA-restricted items, I will be more than happy to compare the firearms and accessories I own to the ones you own.

In other words -- ones that anyone may understand -- I'm calling your bluff. Show your actual, in-your-hand-right-this-minute, cards. As an alternate, you may fold and admit that I win.

You apparently feel a need to impress to boost your state but I doubt that many others are interested in violating their own privacy to impress you. But it wouldn't matter to you since privacy is illegal in California.

[Nighteyes]

Originally Posted by Happy in Wyoming

You apparently feel a need to impress to boost your state but I doubt that many others are interested in violating their own privacy to impress you. But it wouldn't matter to you since privacy is illegal in California.

You obviously don't know the laws of California, where privacy is almost a religion. Perhaps you have forgotten that nearly all of the nation's entertainment stars live in (Southern) California...

To modify an old saying, my friend: "Opinions are like noses -- everybody's got one, and most of 'em smell." That applies equally to you, to me, and to everyone who reads this thread. With that said, I again offer this -- NFA restrictions aside, is anyone in a non-California state willing to match me in this challenge?

(A) "I own all the firearms and accessories that I, personally, would like to own."

(B) "All of the firearms and accessories I own are completely and entirely legal, not only in the United States as a whole but in my state as well."

In poker the saying is, "Raise, Call or Fold." And your choice is....... ?

[ElkHunter]

Obviously some people cannot take a little joke, so the thread is closed. It, as you see, cannot be discussed in an adult manner. The bickering stops now.