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I am trying to identify this shotgun so I can determine a value for it. It was my fiancee's Father's and he was a big hunter and a WWII vet. There are no markings anywhere that I can see to identify the maker. The only identification on the gun is: Original Anson – Deeley – System on underside; Nitro stamped into the side of each barrel; and Wittener Stahl stamped on the top of each barrel. Other than that, it has a very ornate metal carvings with the underside having a hunting dog with a duck in it’s mouth; left side has a whitetail buck and doe; and the right side has a bull and cow elk. I think it is a 16 gauge side by side and under those is a single 8mm barrel.
Also found "L. Fpauenstorfer, Mannheim" on top of the two barrels (in between them).
Thank you all for your previous inputs, hopefully the pictures and other ID will help someone out there be able to give me an identification and value. I would like to have a firm idea of what the value is before I try to sell it.
This question was originally posted on 2-22-2009. I’m new to this, so I don’t know if it is acceptable for me to post another message related to the same thing, but I was concerned that nobody may see the pictures I posted on my last thread. I am still desperate for info on identifying this Drilling Shotgun.
looks like my Ithaca 16 side by side.
Can you get a serial number from it? You might be able to take it to a gunsmith and get it ID'd and some idea of value.
Your fiancee should keep it, why would you want to sell it? You will not get another like it if you let it go.
These pre-war German drillings were made by a lot of small shops, mostly of high quality and the one you show looks like a good one to me.
If you ever want to shoot it you need to have a gunsmith check the chamber length of the 16-ga barrels, some of these had chambers much shorter than the standard 2 3/4 inch currently sold. The 8mm barrel is probably a .318 diameter if it does not say 8mm J somewhere on it, this should be checked at the same time as the shotgun barrels. *most* current 8mm ammo has the .323 "J" diameter bullet, and would not be the best thing to use in this valuable old gun.
If you insist on selling it, you should get it appraised by someone who does drillings - unless there is someone on here who is a real drilling aficianado, you won't get a value you can hang your hat on from here.
I would offer the guess "several thousand" dollars though. Several could mean 2 or 3 or it could mean 7 or 8.
I also have a drilling that I am looking to sell if I can find out what it is worth. I will let you know if I find anything if you can send me your e-mail address and I would appreciate it if you could do the same!
I have a Drilling almost identical to yours. It too is 16 gauge (2&1/2" chambers) and 8mm Mauser (.318 bore not .323"). Manufactured by Stahl & Berger Hamburg model "Burgermeister" Yours too is probably stamped 7.7mm X 57. Can you send close up photos of the inscriptions to me at jcs375@gmail.com If you wish to sell it I would be interested in purchasing it from you.
Just a historical note. The vast majority of Drillings were brought back by G.I.s after WWII. The best were made by hand in small shops and are works of art. They turn up fairly often at gun shows. There is not a strong demand for them by collectors (kind of a speciality). I've never seen one for less than $1200 at a show.
Go to a big gun shpw and look for the booths that specialize in high grade shotguns they will like be able to tell you.There were alot of german guns brought back after WWII and into the 50's.
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