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Old 01-08-2013, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Portsmouth, VA
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Cleveland? The land of 6 month winters and burning rivers? Good luck to you!
Lake Erie burned back in the 70s/80s, that was over 40 years ago. None of that industry is even in Cleveland anymore. There are plenty of warehouses that have been converted to lofts. Downtown is much larger than I remember, far larger than anything here in HR. Not that Downtown is cheap, prices are just as expensive, if not more, than Downtown Norfolk or Town Center, Virginia Beach.

But you can live in a regular neighborhood for less than $900 without living in a slum somewhere. Plus it is a true urban environment throughout the city, not just downtown. and they had light rail back in the 60s. You learn to take the good and the bad, just like people do with this place.
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Old 01-08-2013, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Newport News
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Lake Erie burned back in the 70s/80s, that was over 40 years ago. None of that industry is even in Cleveland anymore. There are plenty of warehouses that have been converted to lofts. Downtown is much larger than I remember, far larger than anything here in HR. Not that Downtown is cheap, prices are just as expensive, if not more, than Downtown Norfolk or Town Center, Virginia Beach.

But you can live in a regular neighborhood for less than $900 without living in a slum somewhere. Plus it is a true urban environment throughout the city, not just downtown. and they had light rail back in the 60s. You learn to take the good and the bad, just like people do with this place.
It was a joke... Relax... wow
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Old 01-08-2013, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Portsmouth, VA
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It was a joke... Relax... wow
I was relaxed, still am.

I only mention it because an area is often defined by what happened at their lowest point. That was a pretty bad time for the city, economically and otherwise. No different than the rep Portsmouth and Norfolk has around here.
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Hampton Roads, VA.
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Good lord brother, you've got some serious hate going on there. This is one black person that disagrees with you. Civil rights is civil rights, period. And stopping gay people from marrying isn't going to do a damn thing to protect your marriage, of this I assure you. The "I've got mine" mentality is exactly what is wrong with this society. I don't agree with anything Coconut1 said about the tidewater area but you place me in the unenviable position of defending him when you spew such bile and hate.
LIKE I SAID -I do not care- what homosexuals do or how they live their life...thats what is wrong with people today...you think everyone has to be jumping up and down celebrating and congratulating homosexuals as if their being denied the right to vote or something. The "Ive got mine" attitude has always been a problem in this country...but I havent "got mine" so I dont see how that applies to anything other than just being a saying.

Statements like what you have made is whats wrong with this country....you try to correalate things together that do not correalate. I dont care if youre Black...I dont care what you say (no disrespect to you)...marriage was designed for man and women not man and man....not man and beast...not man and alien etc. If you want to consecrate such union invoking the God of the Bible then thats something we'll have to disargree on. But when you say I spew hate and bile that shows how you off kiltered your reasoning is, because if I promoted violence against homosexuals or not hiring of or renting to homosexuals...that would be hate/discrimination...saying dont ask me to celebrate or congratulate homosexuality is my right as a human. The old head mustve been right...some of these liberals wont be happy until every grown man is blowin each other in the middle of the street. Good day to you, suh.
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Old 01-10-2013, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Jersey City
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Nobody that is actually from down here would go to New Jersey voluntarily (maybe to AC to gamble but Dover Downs is closer) so I doubt they are VB or NC locals.
Over here, I grew up in Tidewater and moved out after college. I'm now a NJ resident, and quite happy with it. There are a lot of southern expats in this area, in fact.
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Old 01-10-2013, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Durham, NC (Ballantyne/Charlotte in Sep)
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Seriously thinking about going back to Ohio. Prices are a lot cheaper in Cleveland.

Hate to say it but Ohio and Cleveland are cheap FOR A REASON. Just ask my roommate who is from Ohio. Not totally dissing Ohio. I love Cincinnati and Victorian Village in Columbus.
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Old 01-10-2013, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Jersey City
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Statements like what you have made is whats wrong with this country....you try to correalate things together that do not correalate. I dont care if youre Black...I dont care what you say (no disrespect to you)...marriage was designed for man and women not man and man....not man and beast...not man and alien etc. If you want to consecrate such union invoking the God of the Bible then thats something we'll have to disargree on. But when you say I spew hate and bile that shows how you off kiltered your reasoning is, because if I promoted violence against homosexuals or not hiring of or renting to homosexuals...that would be hate/discrimination...saying dont ask me to celebrate or congratulate homosexuality is my right as a human. The old head mustve been right...some of these liberals wont be happy until every grown man is blowin each other in the middle of the street. Good day to you, suh.
The nonsensical man/beast, man/alien stuff aside, if the gay marriage debate were about gays wanting to force their way into your church to have a wedding, I'd agree with this point of view. But a civil marriage license is a document issued by the state. God doesn't cosign that any more than he cosigns your birth certificate or social security card. If a gay couple wants to go down to City Hall and get a civil marriage certificate, who cares? I doubt they'll care whether you want to celebrate with them or not. And that's a shame because it'll probably be an awesome party.
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Old 01-10-2013, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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757Cities- Hopefully one day you can get over your racism and homophobia. Until then good luck to you.
His/her homophobia is not a problem to him/her obviously.
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Old 01-10-2013, 10:33 PM
 
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The nonsensical man/beast, man/alien stuff aside, if the gay marriage debate were about gays wanting to force their way into your church to have a wedding, I'd agree with this point of view. But a civil marriage license is a document issued by the state. God doesn't cosign that any more than he cosigns your birth certificate or social security card. If a gay couple wants to go down to City Hall and get a civil marriage certificate, who cares? I doubt they'll care whether you want to celebrate with them or not. And that's a shame because it'll probably be an awesome party.
Amen to that! I don't know how certain religions came to believe that they owned the word or definition of marriage.

If somebody doesn't like gay marriage then they just shouldn't marry a gay person!

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His/her homophobia is not a problem to him/her obviously.
I guess not and that is a sad, sad thing. I think their issues go pretty deep though based on what they've said here. I truly hope they can at the very least acknowledge they have issues and seek professional help.
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Old 01-14-2013, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Portsmouth, VA
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Hate to say it but Ohio and Cleveland are cheap FOR A REASON. Just ask my roommate who is from Ohio. Not totally dissing Ohio. I love Cincinnati and Victorian Village in Columbus.
The reason is that there aren't many jobs, and the few that are there don't pay as much as they do here. I'm from Ohio myself. Where the infrastructure is good in Ohio prices are high. Where it isn't, prices are low, and there aren't many amenities. If you're making 50K or more you can live in one of those better neighborhoods downtown but if not you're stuck out in a regular working class place.

Sad thing is you have your haves and have nots. Gulf wasn't that wide when I was growing up there but it has only gotten worse over time. Sin city too; casinos, clubs, bars, etc.

40 years ago you could get a nice job in a factory and live a middle class lifestyle. These days you need a college degree or two, and three times as much money, just to live as well. It is very, very, hard to live in America without an education. But I do agree in Ohio most cities the entire city is a slum except for downtown. A lot of the suburbs are slums as well, Section 8 slums, if there is such a thing.
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