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What would you say are the differences between Asians in Hawaii and their counterparts in mainland US? I heard that Asians in Hawaii are generally not fresh off the boat so they speak English on native speaker level, and they are more verbal and assertive than their counterparts in the mainland. What have you observed in Hawaii?
What have u observed are the differences between whites in hawaii and the mainland?
I don't find the "local" asians more verbal or assertive. I think that comes from being assimilated into the US culture. So, FOB's (to use a rude phase) are less likely to confront someone or stand up for themselves as opposed to asian kids who grew up in the US, where we value indivuality vs. group think. The same holds true for any recent immigrants. Especially if they're illegal. And, yes, Hawaii has many illegal aliens. They just don't speak spanish, so people don't seem to be up in arms about them.
Wonder why focus on differences and not human similarities
I was rather astounded to read that anyone seeks clarification about human comparisons. The apparent intent is to point out differences. We are all the same and individual reactions vary by character and personalities. Our species spends too much time separating and dividing based upon exterior criteria. Humor expands upon that nature and makes it fun to discuss or laugh at our collective quirks. The problem comes when humans NEED to be "right"
and then defend their perspectives. We need to just get over ourselves and enjoy mutual existence and joys. Definitions for aspects of our human condition, are not a good path taken to accrue frequent flier mileage.
Agreed. The ego is worse than an accumulation of forces in nature from tsunami, hurricanes, earthquakes, and volcanoes. The difference is that WE can decide to alter that ego behavior, and nature just keeps reminding us all, that WE are insignificant. Only when WE are slammed to our knees, do WE start realizing a NEED to change. Sometimes...WE grasp our commonality.
No idea if this thread is being updated or read anymore, but i wanted to add my part! Mainland asians, specifically those in California, are different based on region and surroundings. Some are highly influenced by white culture. Others are influenced by Mexican or African American culture. Others are highly influenced by Asian culture (by asian I mean from actual asia). Often California Asian culture can be a mix of Mexican and African American cultures (based on my own account). I'm an Asian myself, I was born in Inglewood, and grew up in Los Angeles. I have many asian friends who have grown up in the projects, and are influenced by the culture of that environment. Some of my friends are affiliated with gangs. I have other friends who have grown up in an environment with many white/caucasians, and therefore have been influenced by that group. Also, some of my mainland Asian friends can be very defensive and confident, willing to fight if we need to defend each other or if provoked (most of my group has been close since a young age, but again, this is different for every person). Others that I know are often quiet and timid. Others are just arrogant a**holes (that my friends and I like to refer to as f***bois lol). So basically, the mainland Asian stereotypes might not always be so accurate!
I think Asians in Hawaiis are more tanned in skin tone than those of the mainland america due to more sunshine.
Also Asian Hawaiians are mostly Japanese or Okinawans compared to the large number of Chinese(Cantonese ,Fujianese or Taiwanese) majority in the rest of the US.
But these Hawaiians desended from Japanse or Okinawans are also very different in cultures compared to people in Japan.
I could never understand how people can not respect or acknowledge differences in cultures and people? How can one believe in equality without respect for peoples diversity?
Ive lived in SF and Hawaii but i cant say what the rest of the mainland is like. Only the westcoast. I can say growing up on oahu that Asian culture is more mainstream and dominant. As i mentioned in another thread, in Honolulu were i grewup, you heard japanese,tagalog and other asian languages more in mainstream society. With asian language radiostations, tv and ethnic movie houses being common in my time( ok im ol' ***).
But you got a feeling that in Oahu back then that the cultures learned to co-exist together, not to be assimilated out of existence. Just my honest opinion that Hawaii is more first generation asian then the rest of the mainland. I can't say its like that today but growing up in the kikaida, yick lung and holiday mart/daiei generation with some traditional oldschool asian traditional values still in society,
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Wonder why focus on differences and not human similarities
