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Old 03-01-2015, 11:08 AM
 
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The only thing I could find was this:
Honolulu Star-Advertiser, Hawaii's news leader. - City proposal takes aim at illegal vacation rentals - Hawaii News - Honolulu Star-Advertiser
"Without a permit a residence can be rented for no less than 30 days"
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Old 03-01-2015, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Na'alehu Hawaii/Buena Vista Colorado
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Also consider that vacation rentals less than 30 days are illegal on Oahu.
Then there are a whole lot of people operating illegally. I just went on VRBO and entered in a two week time period on Oahu, and 956 places came up.
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Old 03-01-2015, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Kahala
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It is frustrating that people on this forum recommend illegal home vacation rentals. They are very bad for the community
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Old 03-01-2015, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Kahala
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Then there are a whole lot of people operating illegally. I just went on VRBO and entered in a two week time period on Oahu, and 956 places came up.
Yes, it is a very serious problem on Oahu.
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Old 03-01-2015, 12:44 PM
 
Location: mainland but born oahu
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It is frustrating that people on this forum recommend illegal home vacation rentals. They are very bad for the community
Changed mind again, please enlighten us. How is it hurting the community besides it being illegal? Are you talking taxes? Please fill us in im here to learn too. And no i don't want to get into a long discussion of it k.
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Old 03-01-2015, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Kahala
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How so, please enlighten us? Besides it being illegal, how does it hurt the community? Unless your talking taxes?
Higher rent and tighter rental market for people who live here

Safety

Disruption/loud partying at night

Over 4,000 illegal rentals on Oahu and about 3,000 on Kauai and 3,000 on Maui.

And of course the taxes that aren't being collected to benefit the residents.
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Old 03-01-2015, 01:55 PM
 
Location: mainland but born oahu
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Higher rent and tighter rental market for people who live here

Safety

Disruption/loud partying at night

Over 4,000 illegal rentals on Oahu and about 3,000 on Kauai and 3,000 on Maui.

And of course the taxes that aren't being collected to benefit the residents.
So higher rent and tighter rental market for people who live here is cause by illegal home vacation rentals? So your saying without them rents would be lower and the market would be looser? Or maybe it takes profits from foriegn owned bigger resort or tourist focus rentals?

Safety? Huh unless your thinking rental owners are norman bates?

Well would it surprise you to know that alot of the tourist resort or hotel profits are not going back to the local economy? Its difficult to blame illegal vacation rentals for the problems with the housing market or etc when alot of housing/condo nonresident owners are using limited housing for investment purposes that alot of time sits empty. I c ur quality of life issue.
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Old 03-01-2015, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Kahala
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From the most liberal magazine in Hawaii.

"Thousands of illegal vacation rentals have been allowed to proliferate throughout the islands, likely contributing to a reduction in state tax revenue and a tightening of local rental markets, a new report by the Hawaii Tourism Authority suggests. "

Report Indicates Oahu's Illegal Vacation Rentals Outnumber Permitted Ones - Civil Beat
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Old 03-01-2015, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Moku Nui, Hawaii
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Illegal vacation rentals are part of the problem of high rents and a tight rental market, although they aren't the only cause. If there's 4,000 units being used as vacation rentals, then that's 4,000 units that aren't being rented to people who live here. In a tight housing market, that makes a difference. If someone can rent their unit to tourists for $1,000 a week, they aren't gonna rent it to locals for $500 a week, now are they?

If you're the one living next door to the vacation rental, each week there will be someone new next door. Folks on vacation are usually much less considerate than folks living somewhere. Frequently they get this "I'm on vacation, you have to cater to me" kinda attitude. Add in the "I'm on an expensive Hawaiian vacation so I deserve that you must cater to me" attitude and it's even worse. They don't care about making noise, why should they? They're on vacation. They stay out late, make noise coming in, get up early since they're from a different time zone and make noise, etc. Houses in Hawaii are very close to each other and neighbors have to be considerate. Frequently, visitors from somewhere else aren't used to this.

Also, if it's someone new each week, you have to go through the rules of the neighborhood with them, each and every week. If they don't know that they are supposed to only park on their side of the street or something along that line, then you're either going to have to educate the new tenants each and every week or just constantly deal with the problem.

Vacation rentals also don't create neighborhood community. How can they, they really aren't part of the community, they are only there for one week. Are you gonna go next door to a vacation rental borrow a cup of shoyu? Are they going to help you when you need a ride to the dentist and your car isn't running? Will they share the fruit from their fruit tree? No community from a vacation rental yet it is a drain on the community with no recompense to the folks living there.

If the owners of the vacation rentals live on the mainland, then the money from the vacation rentals is going off island just like the money spent at big resorts. At least the big resorts aren't next door to most folks and annoy them on a day to day basis.

The safety is for the neighborhood, not the folks renting the vacation rentals. If someone is only going to be in a neighborhood for a week, then if they misbehave, who back where they live is going to know?
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Old 03-01-2015, 02:37 PM
 
Location: mainland but born oahu
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From the most liberal magazine in Hawaii.

"Thousands of illegal vacation rentals have been allowed to proliferate throughout the islands, likely contributing to a reduction in state tax revenue and a tightening of local rental markets, a new report by the Hawaii Tourism Authority suggests. "

Report Indicates Oahu's Illegal Vacation Rentals Outnumber Permitted Ones - Civil Beat
Yea i can see how its not a clear cut case issue. On one hand you have locals renting out units in there homes to supliment their income but at the same time who they are renting to doesn't contribute or care about the community. Mahalo for the different point of view WV.
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