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Ok let's say your logic and math is correct. I will go with it. The difference between population from between 1995 and 2015: was 95,000 an increase of 4,750 per year. That number represents less than the typical year of growth of births - deaths, etc etc. Ok so did you know on average by stats 40%.to 50% of those born in Hawai'i move from Hawaii? I bet you didn't factor that in, so if the birth rate is like two births to one death and half the births leave? Doesn't it about make it even? Let's factor that in ok. So in 1995, 885,000 people live in Honolulu country. In 2015, 976,000 people lived in Honolulu county, births 2 to 1 deaths - 50% of those born leave Honolulu that = about 95,000 people moved to Honolulu county in the last 20 years. So basicly all the growth is from people not from Hawai'i. Which is my point. Am I wrong in my logic?
Are you wrong in your logic. Yes, yes, and YES! Even after several cocktails I'd never make sense of that logic.
THE ENTIRE GROWTH OF OAHU THE PAST 20 YEARS IS ATTRIBUTED TO MORE BIRTHS THAN DEATHS. PERIOD. Nothing more. Nothing less.
The population grows by 4,750 a year. There are over 5,500 more births than deaths per year. That is the growth.
About 1,000 people a year net migrate out of Honolulu County. Whoopee - not statistically significant.
THE ENTIRE GROWTH OF OAHU THE PAST 20 YEARS IS ATTRIBUTED TO MORE BIRTHS THAN DEATHS. PERIOD. Nothing more. Nothing less.
So there is no growth from the influx of mainland and international transplants? Zero immigration??
The bottom line is many locals are leaving Oahu because they cannot afford to live here anymore. The unabating influx of immigrants from areas of the globe that have a lower standard of living (which reduce the quality of life for locals) + the influx of comparatively wealthy transplants that move here pushing their bougie ideology (which has the potential to improve the standard of living for locals but has the undesirable impact of increasing the cost of living) makes for a pretty dismal reality for many long-time, multi-generational locals.
Of course the politically correct will refrain from stating any of the aforementioned "nonsense" is accurate to any degree.
So there is no growth from the influx of mainland and international transplants? Zero immigration??
Correct. At least for the past 20 years.
Honolulu County grows by about 5,700 per year by more births than death. About 2 people are born for every death. A staggering number when you think about it.
About 1,000 more leave the island than move to the island. (For instance, if 12,000 move to Honolulu 13,000 move away from Honolulu - likely people who moved here to begin with)
So there is no growth from the influx of mainland and international transplants? Zero immigration??
The bottom line is many locals are leaving Oahu because they cannot afford to live here anymore. The unabating influx of immigrants from areas of the globe that have a lower standard of living (which reduce the quality of life for locals) + the influx of comparatively wealthy transplants that move here pushing their bougie ideology (which has the potential to improve the standard of living for locals but has the undesirable impact of increasing the cost of living) makes for a pretty dismal reality for many long-time, multi-generational locals.
Of course the politically correct will refrain from stating any of the aforementioned "nonsense" is accurate to any degree.
Go figure, according to the stats i have the share of people born to Hawai'i but lives somwhere else has risen sharply. But since 1980s Hawai'i local born population is up 50% but the diaspora has x2
Also Hawai'i has one of the highest % of the population renting in the country.
I would imagine a large part of that is military, and kids who live in a family home with other family members.
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Honolulu County grows by about 5,700 per year by more births than death. About 2 people are born for every death. A staggering number when you think about it.
About 1,000 more leave the island than move to the island. (For instance, if 12,000 move to Honolulu 13,000 move away from Honolulu - likely people who moved here to begin with)
The net is about 4,700 growth per year.
Thanks to "cherry picking," your conclusions are slightly off...
Here's a link to some nice tables by the State of Hawaiʻi Department of Business, Economic Development & Tourism that might be more elucidating (especially Table 5)... http://files.hawaii.gov/dbedt/census...2015_Final.pdf
Honolulu County grows by about 5,700 per year by more births than death. About 2 people are born for every death. A staggering number when you think about it.
About 1,000 more leave the island than move to the island. (For instance, if 12,000 move to Honolulu 13,000 move away from Honolulu - likely people who moved here to begin with)
The net is about 4,700 growth per year.
It would be a staggering number if it were actually true.
Perhaps your current agenda is to make it seem as if locals breed like rabbits?
You'll need to scrounge up some new "data" to make a valid argument because you make absolutely no sense.
There are more people that migrate here internationally than net birth gains made by residents.
Thanks to "cherry picking," your conclusions are slightly off...
Here's a link to some nice tables by the State of Hawaiʻi Department of Business, Economic Development & Tourism that might be more elucidating (especially Table 5)... http://files.hawaii.gov/dbedt/census...2015_Final.pdf
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Originally Posted by whtviper1
Correct. At least for the past 20 years.
I see - who is cherry picking now - I referenced the past 20 years.
The table you reference is from the past 5 years.
go elucidate on that.....
And by the way, net 14,000 from 2010-2015 is not a lot of people on an island of over 900,000 people.
And - it doesn't change the fact that in the past 20 years there has been overall net migration loss.
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