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Admittedly, I thought 7.6% was an artificially high figure for Hawaii (I have friends in all demographics of all ages and know not a single person without coverage). But then I read this...
I don't know. What do locals need that haole don't?
Just guessing, as I haven't set foot in a Wal-Mart in years...
Electricity, sewer hookup, dental work, legal advice, auto maintenance beyond tires and oil change, child care, pest control, home repair and remodeling,...
Just guessing, as I haven't set foot in a Wal-Mart in years...
Electricity, sewer hookup, dental work, legal advice, auto maintenance beyond tires and oil change, child care, pest control, home repair and remodeling,...
ew, he doesn't need running water or dental work? sauerkraut must be quite haunas indeed
Probably the bulk being homeless - dependants - transient workers who can't hold full time jobs.
It is ironic, at least to me, that cheap healthcare is mandated to residents of Hawaii (single) who work over 20 hours a week - but they exempted State and County workers who pay far more than their private sector counterparts despite often having lower wages and are left to the mercy of the union negotiators
I think part of the reason why state/city employees pay an obscene amount, 50-60% (I thnk) of their medical cost is because of the medical benefits gotten in retirement.
But like I mentioned in a different thread, I know people that joined the state out of college, and after all deductions, their paychecks are abysmal. Part of that is because they're funding the pension and eutf medical plan, which are supposedly supposed to be around when they retire.
Probably the bulk being homeless - dependants - transient workers who can't hold full time jobs.
It is ironic, at least to me, that cheap healthcare is mandated to residents of Hawaii (single) who work over 20 hours a week - but they exempted State and County workers who pay far more than their private sector counterparts despite often having lower wages and are left to the mercy of the union negotiators
Actually the State and County employees get a fair deal even though they pay higher share of premium before retirement:
(1) Many employers in private sector just offer health insurance to the full time employee without offering coverage to the spouse and the kids.
(2) Most State and County employees, if they are hired before 1997, don't need to pay a dime for premium after retirement.
(3) Their spouse is still covered in retirement.
(4) When Medicare kicks in at 65, the State/County plan serves as supplementary plan.
In fact, many Federal employees look for State/County job after retirement because the State/City offers better benefits.
I'll take my free lifetime private health insurance (paid for by the State of Hawaii).
Union has done well by us.
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(2) Most State and County employees, if they are hired before 1997, don't need to pay a dime for premium after retirement.
1997? The year of Spice Girls and Titanic? How does that relate to anyone moving here now or the existing employees with a severely underfunded pension?
Sure, old timers who survived their low wages are fine in retirement.
I'll take my free lifetime private health insurance (paid for by the State of Hawaii).
Union has done well by us.
I'm happy to compare my lifetime private sector wages and benefits to Hawaii lifetime union wages and benefits and I'm pretty sure I know which did much better.
State old timers are fine.
For now.
(Hint:the party will likely be over - the funds are all severely underfunded and shouldn't be discounted that benefits will get slashed including old timers)
And by the way - the free health insurance. Didn't come free. You paid for it.
Probably the bulk being homeless - dependants - transient workers who can't hold full time jobs.
It is ironic, at least to me, that cheap healthcare is mandated to residents of Hawaii (single) who work over 20 hours a week - but they exempted State and County workers who pay far more than their private sector counterparts despite often having lower wages and are left to the mercy of the union negotiators
Not necessarily far more than their counterparts in the private sector.
For example, under the new PPO HMSA 75/25 medical+drug+chiropractic plan, employee pays $168/monthly for family plan while employer pays $903/monthly. Employer's share of contribution is 84.3% while employee's share is 15.7%.
Unlike private sector, there are multiple plans offered in State/City that can suit each one's need.
When I worked for private sector, what the company offered was HMO only.
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