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Old 06-27-2019, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Puna, Hawaii
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You mean they don't have ferries between islands? You'd think they would. Is flying really the only main option?

(Serious question. I've never been to HI so have no idea how it works.)

The only ferries are between Maui / Lanai and Maui / Molokai:


Molokai - Maui Ferry: Molokai Princess and Maui Princess Packages and Tours
https://go-lanai.com/


I've taken the ferry to/from Lanai. Trip to Lanai was okay, the trip back, after the winds picked up, led me to refer to the ferry affectionately as the "Barf Boat". They are passenger ferries (no vehicles).
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Old 06-27-2019, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Kahala
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The only ferries are between Maui / Lanai and Maui / Molokai:


Molokai - Maui Ferry: Molokai Princess and Maui Princess Packages and Tours
https://go-lanai.com/

Odd that website is up. The Molokai ferry hasn’t run for over 2 years.
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Old 06-27-2019, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Puna, Hawaii
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Glad I missed it after the Barf Boat experience.
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Old 06-27-2019, 06:20 PM
 
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keep the fishies happy and healthy
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Old 07-01-2019, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Maui No Ka 'Oi
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they tried to, but the not in my back port hippies killed it.
The hippies and the whale lovers were just fronts. The lobbyists for the inter-island airline industry and Young Brothers killed the hydro-foil. (Ferry for people and/or with their vehicles.)
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Old 01-25-2021, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Kahala
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Yes its a ridiculous law to be applying to Alaska and Hawaii. When the Jones Act was passed in the 1800's neither state existed to oppose it. The President has the authority to suspend portions of it, and frequently does during emergencies, but US labor unions oppose any permanent suspension even if it would bring great financial relief to the residents of the states most affected by it.
Just watched the latest press conference from Biden - plans by Executive Order to strengthen the Jones Act

https://gcaptain.com/biden-administr...the-jones-act/

Notably for the domestic maritime industry, the Executive Order explicitly reiterates President Biden’s strong support of the Jones Act, the 100-year-old law that requires goods shipped between U.S. ports to be transported on ships that are built, owned, and operated by United States citizens or permanent residents.

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Old 01-25-2021, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Puna, Hawaii
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Just watched the latest press conference from Biden - plans by Executive Order to strengthen the Jones Act

https://gcaptain.com/biden-administr...the-jones-act/

Notably for the domestic maritime industry, the Executive Order explicitly reiterates President Biden’s strong support of the Jones Act, the 100-year-old law that requires goods shipped between U.S. ports to be transported on ships that are built, owned, and operated by United States citizens or permanent residents.
Ugh.... Two steps back.
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Old 01-25-2021, 11:16 PM
 
Location: HONOLULU
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I think there are inter-island cruiseliner yet. The economy is so shaky, I doubt they're busy at all. They have lost a lot of businesses. The Jones act, that is another story. The Jones act has just about increase the price of foods on shipping from island to island. This includes the cost of foods being shipped to sell in the cruise ships. I may have red about it somewhere, the Senator Ed Case, is voting against the Jones act. Possibly to do away with it. To stop domestic prices from climbing. I don't see anybody is going on the cruise ships to travel interisland any more. Too risky. Especially with COVID-19. And only one way to fly. By jet. Boeing 717-200 twin engine jets. This is the only interisland carrier there is. One big airline. Yeah, Mokulea Airlines. They are still around. But only for Maui and Molokai. And Lanai.
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Old 01-26-2021, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Puna, Hawaii
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It's because of the Jones Act that (when the cruise ships were running) you couldn't, for example, get on the cruise ship in Honolulu and take it Maui because that was your destination. If its a domestic location you HAVE start and stop the journey at the same port unless the ship is compliant with the Jones Act (none of the cruise ships are).

I asked somebody who works for the cruise ship industry, what is to stop somebody from boarding the ship in Honolulu and instead of completing the entire voyage, getting off the ship in Hilo and not return to Honolulu? They aren't going to go arrest the passenger and make them get back on the ship right?

This does sometimes happen, and when it does the cruise ship company has to pay a fine. Under the contract of carriage the cruise ship company passes the fine onto the passenger (they charge your credit card). Additionally, the passenger gets put on their "no cruise list" to make sure it never happens again.

If it wasn't for the Jones Act, the cruise ships could operate as inter-island ferries if they wanted to and they had the capacity. Or even between ports on the same island. It would be possible to get on the boat in Kona and take to Hilo. But instead the politicians decided that it's better to have no ferry service than to have foreign-flagged ferry service.
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Old 01-26-2021, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Kahala
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Pride of America is US built and US flagged staffed only by US citizens and permanent residents. It is the only one in the world. They can ferry passengers if they wanted to do so.
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