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Old 06-01-2020, 12:26 AM
 
Location: Kahala
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Yes. If 40% cut then 3 day workweek - not likely to happen.
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Old 06-01-2020, 12:55 AM
 
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A four day school week is feasible.
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Old 06-03-2020, 12:03 AM
 
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She will likely need to decide if it is love of the job versus the compensation received - if hired.

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/0...-lost-revenue/

At this point, they are now suggesting that furloughs of up to three years would be necessary, potentially 40 percent in the first year -- which would be two days a week -- and then 20 (percent) and 20 (percent) in the next years,” said Randy Perreira, the HGEA’s executive director.

I can tell you - the 40% is meant to scare you. 20% is realistic. 10% cut is achievable with all the supplemental budget requests taken off the table - some accounting tricks - some bonds (more debt) - and using the entire rainy day fund. There isn't a budget model that has no pay cuts (at this time). As a reminder - you don't stop things like construction projects to save money - those are special funds and by law will proceed. Salaries are paid by General funds.
It should be an actual pay CUT, not a furlough. A furlough really isn't a cut in pay. It's working less hours for less pay. Never going to happen, but just saying.

It's absolutely insane that they're burning all their cash that they should be using to help the people of hawaii to pay state workers. The county, for all its flaws, at least is allocating monies towards helping the residents.
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Old 06-03-2020, 12:15 AM
 
Location: Kahala
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To be fair - the counties rely on property tax hence they aren’t feeling pain. Yet.

The State legislature is very much in denial. But it sounds good that they say they have it all worked out
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Old 06-13-2020, 05:20 PM
 
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Getting word that the state cuts are likely imminent... personally guessing going to happen by the start of the new fiscal year 7.1.20. State workers "in the know" at departments like B&F are already bracing for the cuts. I'd imagine you'd have to be pretty stupid though to not see this coming. State is bringing in only half of their current expenditure rate
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Old 06-13-2020, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Kahala
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The cut is looking like 10% - passed on to me by someone definitely in the know.
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Old 07-05-2020, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Kahala
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Gov. Ige warns that without more federal aid, Hawaii public worker pay cuts or furloughs are inevitable (a huge problem the State is facing is revenue projects assume tourism ramps back up in August - I suspect it will be a trickle)

https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/...re-inevitable/

Gov. David Ige is planning to borrow money from the federal government to raise cash to navigate the budget crisis caused by the coronavirus pandemic, but said layoffs, pay cuts or furloughs of Hawaii public employees are inevitable if Congress and President Donald Trump don’t come through with more help.

In an interview with the Star-Advertiser last week, the governor outlined features of the new financial plan his administration has developed to ride out the economic malaise caused by the pandemic, which triggered an abrupt economic shutdown and a steep dive in tax collections. But Ige warned there is more pain ahead.
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Old 07-06-2020, 02:51 PM
 
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Gov. Ige warns that without more federal aid, Hawaii public worker pay cuts or furloughs are inevitable (a huge problem the State is facing is revenue projects assume tourism ramps back up in August - I suspect it will be a trickle)

https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/...re-inevitable/

Gov. David Ige is planning to borrow money from the federal government to raise cash to navigate the budget crisis caused by the coronavirus pandemic, but said layoffs, pay cuts or furloughs of Hawaii public employees are inevitable if Congress and President Donald Trump don’t come through with more help.

In an interview with the Star-Advertiser last week, the governor outlined features of the new financial plan his administration has developed to ride out the economic malaise caused by the pandemic, which triggered an abrupt economic shutdown and a steep dive in tax collections. But Ige warned there is more pain ahead.
Why should the federal government give Hawaii anything if they refuse to open up the state to tourists? Can’t help someone who doesn’t want to help themselves. So an entry level teacher with just a bachelors pay is $37,000. A 20% cut on that salary is just less than $30,000. Lot of mainland hires will not show up if a 20% pay cut is implemented. That along with Hawaii ranking #1 in worst states to teach. Looks like Hawaii will have to turn to the Philippines to hire teachers.
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Old 07-06-2020, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Why should the federal government give Hawaii anything if they refuse to open up the state to tourists? Can’t help someone who doesn’t want to help themselves. So an entry level teacher with just a bachelors pay is $37,000. A 20% cut on that salary is just less than $30,000. Lot of mainland hires will not show up if a 20% pay cut is implemented. That along with Hawaii ranking #1 in worst states to teach. Looks like Hawaii will have to turn to the Philippines to hire teachers.
Good question. Quite frankly, it would be throwing money down the drain and the state would be back begging for more in a couple of months as it keeps things effectively shut down (I firmly believe that the negative covid test requirement will be a failure). I wouldn't give Hawaii a dime until it came up with a more sensible reopening plan.
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Old 07-06-2020, 06:46 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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Why should the federal government give Hawaii anything if they refuse to open up the state to tourists? Can’t help someone who doesn’t want to help themselves. So an entry level teacher with just a bachelors pay is $37,000. A 20% cut on that salary is just less than $30,000. Lot of mainland hires will not show up if a 20% pay cut is implemented. That along with Hawaii ranking #1 in worst states to teach. Looks like Hawaii will have to turn to the Philippines to hire teachers.
Cheese-whiz. Have you noticed what’s happening in Florida, Texas, California, Arizona ...... et al? Talk about crashing the economy. Open too soon. There you go.
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