Why Haven't You Moved *OUT* of Hawaii yet? (Pahoa: transplants, to rent)
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After perusing this message board, it seems like there are many unhappy people living in Hawaii who moved there from the Mainland.
High costs of living, lack of jobs, racism, isolation from friends and family -- the reasons have been reiterated over and over again for why people do not like living on the islands.
So the simple question I have for you unhappy folk:
What are the reasons you haven't moved *OUT* of Hawaii yet?
After perusing this message board, it seems like there are many unhappy people living in Hawaii who moved there from the Mainland.
High costs of living, lack of jobs, racism, isolation from friends and family -- the reasons have been reiterated over and over again for why people do not like living on the islands.
So the simple question I have for you unhappy folk:
What are the reasons you haven't moved *OUT* of Hawaii yet?
Because by and large people love living in paradise.
Also, keep in mind that the same people that post here asking questions like you and I are are in the same statistical group that will leave 6 months after arriving. We are also of the same group that will come back to this message board after leaving, portraying that we are still here and basically ***** & moan on how Hawaii has failed us and that nobody should ever move there.
I will say this: If you come here and expect somebody else's experience determine your decisions, you are setting yourself up for failure. You either do a Pre-Move Visit and determine for yourself if this somewhere you want to live or you fly blind. But ultimately it is up to you to make your mind.
Because by and large people love living in paradise.
Also, keep in mind that the same people that post here asking questions like you and I are are in the same statistical group that will leave 6 months after arriving. We are also of the same group that will come back to this message board after leaving, portraying that we are still here and basically ***** & moan on how Hawaii has failed us and that nobody should ever move there.
I will say this: If you come here and expect somebody else's experience determine your decisions, you are setting yourself up for failure. You either do a Pre-Move Visit and determine for yourself if this somewhere you want to live or you fly blind. But ultimately it is up to you to make your mind.
Hehe... very true. Perhaps I'll be the same way after 6-12 months of living on Maui. If that's the case, I'll let everyone know why I moved out of the islands.
It's pretty much as Saxon said. Statistically speaking, it's the new transplants which have the hardest time of taking root. A huge percentage of them move back within a year followed by an additional amount which go back the next year. If they last five years, then they are more likely to stay put.
Frequently, we have folks "Moving to Paradise" and discovering rats and roaches of whatever variety and then fleeing in horror. We try to unconfuse folks about "Paradise" and get them to see the Hawaii that is really here but it doesn't always work. There are still the folks who arrive here wanting to rent a cheap grass shack on a deserted beach with perfect white sand and hula girls and dancing dolphins under rainbows. Some of these folks haven't even ever visited Hawaii. They arrive and see what's really here and then run away again. What's even spookier, though, are the ones who arrive and see the dancing dolphins under the rainbows for awhile. Generally, when those folks crash it's way worse.
Another interesting thing about the folks who want to live in a cheap grass shack on a deserted beach (or whatever their personal vision of "Paradise" may be) is they also want it to be exactly like where they left. Chain stores, strip malls, laws, rules, regulations, etc. Very bizarre.
Another group of folks are those that are fleeing something and they aren't really moving TO Hawaii, they are moving AWAY from something else. There is an even higher percentage of that category of folks who don't last long.
So, if there are folks who want to move to Hawaii, have something to offer the state even if it is just a happy and willing attitude and are able to live simply and are flexible about how they think things should be done, then they are likely to take root here. Folks that want to live like they do on the mainland generally don't thrive here.
my family is freezing back in nj but i was surfing yesterday and saw another sea turtle pop its head up to say hello.
paradise is pricey but beats slush and pollution.
... What's even spookier, though, are the ones who arrive and see the dancing dolphins under the rainbows for awhile. Generally, when those folks crash it's way worse....
I think many of those people live on the Big Island - in Puna.
Yeah, there do seem to be a lot of them there. There is another group on the other side of the island where they will swear to you that dolphins are actually visiting space aliens. It's easy to see why Pahoa/Puna folks would see rainbows, but why the folks on the dry side are seeing space aliens, I dunno.
It's pretty much as Saxon said. Statistically speaking, it's the new transplants which have the hardest time of taking root. A huge percentage of them move back within a year followed by an additional amount which go back the next year. If they last five years, then they are more likely to stay put.
Frequently, we have folks "Moving to Paradise" and discovering rats and roaches of whatever variety and then fleeing in horror. We try to unconfuse folks about "Paradise" and get them to see the Hawaii that is really here but it doesn't always work. There are still the folks who arrive here wanting to rent a cheap grass shack on a deserted beach with perfect white sand and hula girls and dancing dolphins under rainbows. Some of these folks haven't even ever visited Hawaii. They arrive and see what's really here and then run away again. What's even spookier, though, are the ones who arrive and see the dancing dolphins under the rainbows for awhile. Generally, when those folks crash it's way worse.
Another interesting thing about the folks who want to live in a cheap grass shack on a deserted beach (or whatever their personal vision of "Paradise" may be) is they also want it to be exactly like where they left. Chain stores, strip malls, laws, rules, regulations, etc. Very bizarre.
Another group of folks are those that are fleeing something and they aren't really moving TO Hawaii, they are moving AWAY from something else. There is an even higher percentage of that category of folks who don't last long.
So, if there are folks who want to move to Hawaii, have something to offer the state even if it is just a happy and willing attitude and are able to live simply and are flexible about how they think things should be done, then they are likely to take root here. Folks that want to live like they do on the mainland generally don't thrive here.
Ummm, somehow this thread changed topics to the proportion of people who move back to the mainland.
I am wondering for those of you who currently live IN Hawaii and dislike/hate it there...what is keeping you from moving back TO the mainland?
I already know the reasons people want to move back to the mainland (costs, loneliness, etc), but I want to know why people who hate living on the islands, choose to continue to "suffer" there.
A possible simple answer is they can't afford to move back to the mainland.
Perhaps, but if one doesn't have a job on the Islands, but can find work on the mainland, I'm sure they can scrap up the airfare to move back.
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