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Old 01-22-2012, 08:57 PM
 
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which would be better? I read that the danger of aspirin is that if one gets internal bleeding they could die because the thinned blood wouldn't coagulate. As far as brand I read two different theories. One theory said that alcohol doesn't actually thin the blood but increases the size of the veins. Thus the reason we get somewhat reddish skin when drinking. The other theory says that it thins the blood. If the first theory is correct then the danger of bleeding to death wouldn't be a concern. At least I don't think. Any facts or opinions
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Old 01-22-2012, 09:16 PM
 
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which would be better? I read that the danger of aspirin is that if one gets internal bleeding they could die because the thinned blood wouldn't coagulate. As far as brand I read two different theories. One theory said that alcohol doesn't actually thin the blood but increases the size of the veins. Thus the reason we get somewhat reddish skin when drinking. The other theory says that it thins the blood. If the first theory is correct then the danger of bleeding to death wouldn't be a concern. At least I don't think. Any facts or opinions
If you elect to take an aspirin a day be 110% sure it is a BABY ASPIRIN (81MG) NOT A REGULAR ASPIRIN!!

Also be sure that you are not taking any other nsaid (pain killers) when you take a daily aspirin!! (very important)

Low dose (81mg) aspirin works on your blood making the blood components more slippery for easier flow with less clotting where you don't clotting.
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Old 01-23-2012, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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You can use regular aspirin, as long as you keep the dosage down. Just buy whole aspirins in generic bottles, and cut them into pieces. There is nothing magic about the number 81. Any amount of aspirin, from 75 to 100 mg is fine. Aspirin is aspirin, and it works, and it doesn't have to say "baby" on the bottle. There is no "perfect" dosage, the aim is a compromise: acceptable reduction of clotting, but not enough to produce unacceptable risk of GI damage. More than 81 raises a risk of side effects, and less than 81 lowers the protection, but there is no dosage that will give immortality benefit and zero risk.

Any daily dosage higher than that raises the risk of gastrointestinal bleeding. The risk is multiplied if taken in conjunction with other pain killers, so patients taking low-dose aspirin should discontinue while using other products like ibuprofin or tylenol.

So the objective is to settle on a daily dose that is high enough to act as a blood thinner to reduce clotting effects, but at the same time not high enough to contribute to gastrointestinal damage. This has been found to be 75-100 mg. A standard aspirin dose for decades has been 325 mg, and a quarter of that is 81 mg, which is why that strange number has gravitated into the industrial production standard. Owing to quality control issues in the factory, a so-called 81 mg aspirin could actually contain anywhere from 70-90 mg, with variations from one tablet to the next. And considering that the patient could weigh anywhere from 110 pounds to 250, the ideal dosage for each patient could be highly variable. The medical community has simplified it to recommend about a quarter of a standard aspirin would be a safe and effective dose for the average adult.

As stated in previous posts, it is not certain exactly why alcohol reduces the risk of cardiovascular disease, but it apparently does, and the research evidence of this is pretty indisputable. But the reason why aspirin works is pretty well understood, so it remains debatable whether aspirin and alcohol both have the same effect for the same reason. My doctor has recommended both.

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Old 01-23-2012, 12:19 PM
 
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You can use regular aspirin, as long as you keep the dosage down. Just buy whole aspirins in generic bottles, and cut them into pieces. There is nothing magic about the number 81. Any amount of aspirin, from 75 to 100 mg is fine. Aspirin is aspirin, and it works, and it doesn't have to say "baby" on the bottle. There is no "perfect" dosage, the aim is a compromise: acceptable reduction of clotting, but not enough to produce unacceptable risk of GI damage. More than 81 raises a risk of side effects, and less than 81 lowers the protection, but there is no dosage that will give immortality benefit and zero risk.

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Really?

You know for certain that varying amounts of aspirin will do as well as a measured dose?

You got your medical degree where??

A key part of the Hippocratic oath is "Do no harm" remember?
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Old 01-23-2012, 03:28 PM
 
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Really?

You know for certain that varying amounts of aspirin will do as well as a measured dose?

You got your medical degree where??

A key part of the Hippocratic oath is "Do no harm" remember?
Do you really believe that every single baby aspirin that comes out of the bottle contains exactly 81.000 mg of aspirin? And that a 110 pound person and a 250 pound person both need exactly 81? And that you would be harmed if you took 82 mg instead of 81?

More than 81 would slightly elevate your GI damage risk, and slightly improve your chances of avoiding a clot. Less than 81 would slightly reduce your chance of GI damage, and slightly increase your chances of clotting.

A "measured dose" would have a "measured effect" only if everything else remained constant, such as your activity level, the food that consumed that day, the interval between eating and taking the aspirin, and dozens of other factors that you cannot control.

Do you believe that you will actually "do harm" if you get 80 mg one day and 82 another?

If you have any evidence that anything I said is wrong and "does harm", please present your links to your sources.

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Old 01-23-2012, 03:52 PM
 
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Garlic! It is good for you and is a blood thinner.
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