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Old 04-24-2014, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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And, of course, her mother died of ovarian cancer, so there's the possibility of a genetic component. I had a lifelong best friend that I lost to cancer - every member of her family (including a two-year-old niece) died of a different cancer so there was clearly a genetic influence there.
I can see that. My mom's family was riddled with cancer: lung, ovarian, colon ... and maybe a few more. She lost a parent, three siblings, a couple of cousins and some nieces and nephews to the disease. There were probably more that we never knew about; they lived in another country and we lost touch with a lot of them.
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Old 04-24-2014, 10:01 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I have a neighbor who is a chain smoker and she gets up early in the morning sometimes before the sun is up and sits out in the front or on the steps and smokes.So the first thing you smell as you walk outside is the stench of cigarettes. There should be a island for all smokers, cast them off and let them have a smoke fest with each other.
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Old 04-28-2014, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Central Florida
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I'm married to a smoker (he smokes outside, away from the house), but I still have a no smoking clause in my rental contracts for our apartments that I have put in for the past ten years. It basically says, no smoking anywhere on the premises inside or out. People have the right to do (basically) what they want, but when someone's habit - whatever it is - effects my rental units and the other tenants, then I want to make it a non issue. That's not the only clause of course. I have clauses against water containing furniture, musical instruments, etc. So it's not like I'm picking on smokers alone, just things that I KNOW tenants would get upset over (smoking, loud noises, even hoarding of animals or trash/debris) and could damage my property (water containing furniture, smoking, etc.). I have to create an atmosphere that the demographic I'm in accepts (which, is a smoke free environment). I have to cater to what I think people want and the masses don't want to live next to a smoker (or a someone who has a mean dog or who beats on the drum like Gonzo for that matter). I have no doubt, that if someone did smoke, I'd hear about it and getting called for someone's personal habit is not something I care to listen to.

Is it easily enforceable? Not really. A nice conversation would probably do the trick. But I always have the choice of raising their rent if that doesn't work (which, if I have a good tenant, I don't raise the rent unless I've had to do something major in repairs... like 10's of thousand of dollars major). I've never had to deal with a smoking related issue though, and maybe because all the people I've picked just happen to be non smokers or maybe because people just follow the rules.

I wish I could rent from someone like you.
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Old 04-28-2014, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Central Florida
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If you think that is true (lounge singer 2nd-hand smoke), a causation -- then why aren't smokers 'dropping like flies'? I mean lots of them smoke DAILY for 50+ YEARS. Just curious how you rationalize that.

I think Ms. Reeves' may have been HRT-related (considering her age) - but of course, I have no way to know. Regardless, it's sad, and shocking - that's for sure!

I cannot rationalize it I don't really understand it either. I think diet and exercise as well as genes may have something to do with it. I just know that I don't want to breathe second hand smoke better to be safe than sorry.
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Old 04-28-2014, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Not everyone who smokes will get lung cancer; however, the majority of lung cancer victims are smokers or former smokers.

There is no evidence HRT causes lung cancer. It is not biologically plausible that it would.
I had to do a little research on this. It appears that there is indeed no evidence HRT causes lung cancer, but women with lung cancer who take HRT may have a worse prognosis.

Menopausal Hormone Therapy and Cancer - National Cancer Institute

"Lung cancer.

Women who took combined hormone therapy had the same risk of lung cancer as women who took the placebo. However, among those who were diagnosed with lung cancer, women who took estrogen plus progestin were more likely to die of the disease than those who took the placebo.
There were no differences in the number of cases or the number of deaths from lung cancer among women who took estrogen alone compared with those among women who took the placebo."
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Old 04-29-2014, 03:59 AM
 
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I live in an apartment complex that went smoke-free last fall. They sent out paperwork informing everyone that this was coming. They set up areas on the lawns with a chair or two and one of those things to put your cigarette butts in that is enclosed. I see people smoking in the designated areas, but I still think people smoke in their apartments. With the paperwork each household had to sign and date that they know all the rules associated with this and that they would not smoke in their apartments. I don't smoke and I am glad they did this.
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