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When my dad was fully in his alcoholism, he had a bottle every other day of whiskey. Yes, that's a lot, and that doesn't include the pills and the other drinks he might have out at times. He still could function fine at his job but that and the smoking was killing him. He finally got off the booze, but it took 3 months at Hazeldon in MINN. He never did get off the smoking and was able to get off the pills years later.
He probably has an addiction. With determination and help, he can get off the sauce, if he wants to.
Don't you mean recovering? Nobody is ever fully recovered from this.......you always walk that line. I used to go to AA with my husband and there was a speaker that slipped after 50 years of sobriety.....
So you went to the meetings and didn't read the A.A. book?
I read some of the book, but, not all of it since I'm not an alcoholic at all I was the one that suffered because of one.
Sorry about that, and I fully understand.
You were with someone who was recoverING.
Ever notice how those who say they are recovering aren't? It's treatment center middle of the road garbage. I met a gal who would leave my ass if I drank around her. No pressure. That's just the way it is.
Sober 11+ years now, happy, great wife, nice home, love my career. What did I miss?
I need to go back and blame A.A. that I didn't get sober back when I was 18?
I'll have to get right on that.
BTW, I'm a recovered alcoholic, am sponsor-free, am not sponsoring anybody, am not powerless over alcohol at all, and am looking to walk away from A.A. now.
I am confused, First you said that you had been seeking recovery for 31 years and now you say that you are recovered. Which is it?
yeah, that's excessive, but not an ungodly amount. my mother weighed all but 100 pounds and would go through 3 1.75L bottles of vodka a week. she drank it like water. it was a terrible life living with that nonsense as a teenager. looking back at it now, I am amazed she is even alive now...not without consequence though. she's had a massive avalanche of health problems.
hell, even I would polish off a handle of rum in about a weeks time for a year or two after high school. then I eventually woke up and thought that maybe I should cut down a bit.(or a lot)
More double talk and circular reasoning. If someone doesn't succeed in AA, their adherents say they weren't will, weren't "real alcoholics" or are chronically incapable of being honest with themselves. If someone stops drinking on their own, they're not "real alcoholics".
"It works if you work it" i.e. if it fails, it's your fault for not working it.
There is no room for the idea that AA itself is the failure, in the minds of its pure believers.
31 years seeking recovery? Sad, if you ask me.
My issues were addressed and are over. I can use the term "recovered" in the past tense.
I can indeed tell you you don't know me, and it's exceedingly arrogant and presumptuous of you to put all people who see through the fallacies of AA into the "the likes of you" box.
Indeed, using a phrase like that makes me think you have some resentments to address. Looks like your higher power left you with at least one defect of character.
Reading several of your posts in this thread, not just the one quoted above, I note that you are obsessed with denigrating AA. It is generally agreed that AA doesn't work for everybody, but you seem to be saying it doesn't work for anybody. What caused you to become an anti-AA fanatic?
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