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No vaccines here, have not had one in over 30 yrs and not gonna start now. And especially since reading this Reuters report. Continue to strengthen my own immune system.
People who don't take vaccines and say their immune systems are kept strong by food, etc, are fooling themselves. I hope you at least get the tetanus, pertussis, and diphtheria shots, because there' s no way to build your immune system against those. Tetanus especailly, since you can't get exposed to enough of the toxin to build immunity. That take s a shot.
Great. The population most at risk isn't part of the trial: "...This is a phase I, open-label, dose ranging clinical trial in males and non-pregnant females, 18 to 55 years of age, inclusive, who are in good health and meet all eligibility criteria..."
People who don't take vaccines and say their immune systems are kept strong by food, etc, are fooling themselves. I hope you at least get the tetanus, pertussis, and diphtheria shots, because there' s no way to build your immune system against those. Tetanus especailly, since you can't get exposed to enough of the toxin to build immunity. That take s a shot.
So what? It's not like you are going to develop a vaccine, or any other medication, in your garage. Big Pharma has the resources to do that.
I had the necessary vaccines to get into 1st grade in the 40's and had one tetanus shot along the way in my life and since I hear so much news NOT on tv, I have heard from some that those getting annual vaccines are more prone to the CV. And I'd bet so so many of the older folks dying were always getting annual vaccines. And so many are reported dying in the assisted homes and rehabs, so instead of giving them Vit A, C, D and others, a good old shot once a year.
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Great. The population most at risk isn't part of the trial: "...This is a phase I, open-label, dose ranging clinical trial in males and non-pregnant females, 18 to 55 years of age, inclusive, who are in good health and meet all eligibility criteria..."
Phase I are safety trials. They are not concerned with whether the vaccine is efficacious or not. That is why they use young, healthy adults.
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I had the necessary vaccines to get into 1st grade in the 40's and had one tetanus shot along the way in my life and since I hear so much news NOT on tv, I have heard from some that those getting annual vaccines are more prone to the CV. And I'd bet so so many of the older folks dying were always getting annual vaccines. And so many are reported dying in the assisted homes and rehabs, so instead of giving them Vit A, C, D and others, a good old shot once a year.
No, there is no evidence that "those getting annual vaccines are more prone to the CV."
How do you know that nursing home residents are not getting vitamins?
Great. The population most at risk isn't part of the trial: "...This is a phase I, open-label, dose ranging clinical trial in males and non-pregnant females, 18 to 55 years of age, inclusive, who are in good health and meet all eligibility criteria..."
Because the goal isn't to save or treat anyone. That's why Bill Gates didn't care about getting ventilators or gloves or surgical masks to US hospitals. He didn't give a sh-t, and said in an interview his people "didn't do that."
The goal is to vaccinate the entire population whether they want it or not. Mandatory. Forced. Or else.
Because the goal isn't to save or treat anyone. That's why Bill Gates didn't care about getting ventilators or gloves or surgical masks to US hospitals. He didn't give a sh-t, and said in an interview his people "didn't do that."
The goal is to vaccinate the entire population whether they want it or not. Mandatory. Forced. Or else.
How could he obtain ventilators or gloves or surgical masks that did not exist?
A spokesperson for the Gates Foundation explains why they "didn't do that," and a little fact checking would have shown you that what you are saying is incomplete and deceptive.
"Both Gates and Bloomberg have, through their eponymous foundations, announced commitments totaling several hundred million dollars to combat the pandemic in the U.S. and abroad. But, as of today, neither is directly funding the purchase of crucial supplies.
'The foundation does not typically directly fund procurement of health equipment or supplies,' a spokesperson for the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation told me. 'During global health emergencies, however, our goal is to provide fast and flexible funding to government agencies, multilateral organizations and others at the front lines. This allows our partners to quickly translate funding into impact, and gives them discretion to purchase emergency supplies as needed.'
The Gates Foundation is targeting its money toward detection, isolation, and treatment efforts as well as to research toward a vaccine and possible treatments. It’s also offering technical assistance to government agencies working on a vaccine and directing funds to curb the local outbreak in the Greater Seattle region."
Please provide a direct quote where Gates has said he is in favor of vaccinating "the entire population whether they want it or not. Mandatory. Forced. Or else."
Phase I are safety trials. They are not concerned with whether the vaccine is efficacious or not. That is why they use young, healthy adults.
No, there is no evidence that "those getting annual vaccines are more prone to the CV."
How do you know that nursing home residents are not getting vitamins?
I don't know for SURE, but since I spent 4.5 months in rehabs back in later 2016 onward, I doubt it. THeir pharma meds yes and while I was there I had my own supplements hidden and when ran out had friends buy them for me. Giving vits etc is against their regulations.
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