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Old 10-26-2020, 06:57 PM
 
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It's not a prediction. Long-term symptoms happened with SARS as it is now happening with COVID-19 which shares 90 percent of the genetics with that virus. They just happened to lock down the spread of SARS before it spread widely in the US. COVID-19 also spreads faster. I think it'll be dead of winter before we know if wave 2 will be deadly.
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Old 10-26-2020, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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The virus can become latent in the body in areas that are protected from the immune system and then become active. The fatigue is a sign that the virus has become active and the immune system is taking away resources to fight it off. Shingles and mono can have the same effect.
It does not appear to become latent the way chickenpox and Epstein Barr do.

https://www.livescience.com/does-cor...r-in-body.html

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People getting all terrified about stuff that hasn't happened yet.

Fear. It's a powerful thing.


It is happening. That is the reason the thread exists.
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Old 10-27-2020, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Early America
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When people choose to focus entirely on the few with long-term symptoms and ignore everything else, that is fear and anxiety.

The woman in the article experiencing fatigue is not even following advice recommended by the doctor quoted in the article, or a recovery plan like this: https://www.yourcovidrecovery.nhs.uk...ly-activities/

Some people would benefit from this one: One scientist's six-point recovery plan to tackle COVID-19 anxiety: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02298-1

Some posters are known for starting fear propaganda threads.
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Old 10-27-2020, 10:18 AM
 
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Best thing to do is set yourself up for success - fast recovery

-Eat well - low sugar/bread pasta, blood pressure/a1c friendly diet.
-Excercise(even 1 day a week is beneficial, look into HIIT training-takes only 15minutes)
-Sleep well(cut caffeine after morning and sleep in completely darkened room or mask for 8+ hours)
-Multivitamin(vit a,c,d,e zinc, selenium). Many people are recommending a mushroom extract and quercetin to optimize immunity.


Same steps with recovery. Some collagen, fish oil, and a brain supplement would help make sure you fully recover.
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Old 10-27-2020, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Juneau, AK + Puna, HI
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I'm 67 and fit, but when I started bicycling in the warm weather (around May), I noticed I was having a problem with hills. I could ride 20 miles on flat terrain but I just noticed I got out of breath more easily on hills. Same thing if I try to run up steps...
So how are you doing now, still seem to get out of breath more easily?
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Old 10-27-2020, 01:31 PM
 
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Other viruses besides Covid-19 can stay dormant in immune-privileged sites in the body. Herpes, shingles, mononucleosis (Epstein-Barr), and other viruses can hide in these cells where the immune system can't get to them.
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Old 10-27-2020, 01:37 PM
 
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So how are you doing now, still seem to get out of breath more easily?
Yes. If this doesn't go away I'll adjust- I'm still doing better than most people my age. I probably won't repeat the Duathlon I did in 2019 (5K, 12 mile bike ride, another 5K)- it was cancelled this year, naturally, but I just can't imagine running, even though you're allowed to walk it, too. I can't complain if this is what I'm left with.
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Old 10-27-2020, 02:29 PM
 
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I assume you're calculating "recovery" as "did not die from it". As of today there are roughly 8,800,000 cases reported in the US and 5,444,000 are classed as "recovered". The latter is defined as not having had a hospital admission for 6 months after their illness. About 2.6% have died, which is consistent with the percentages you show.

Your figures show nothing about how many survivors have lingering health problems.
How many of your 8,800,000 cases were actually sick enough to be in the ICU?

Number of cases isn't an indication of anything ... except to prove how non-lethal the virus is.

Why aren't 8 million dead?

How many people, after being in the ICU for ANY reason, have lingering affects from that illness?

Perspective and reality, not fear, is the way to persuade others.

Stop fear mongering and present data that support your opinions.
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Old 10-27-2020, 02:58 PM
 
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We agree on how non-lethal the virus is. The death rate, however, does not prove that there are no lingering serious effects. Here's one source from a google search on "COVID Long-Term Effects".

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...m-effects.html

There are many more.
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Old 10-27-2020, 03:14 PM
 
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Well, no, it exists because people are seriously living in fear. And like to talk about their self-induced fear all the live-long day.

>99.5% recovery rate for everyone <70
>95% recovery rate for everyone > 70

Serious terror going on. Continued day after day after day after day...
Or people, like me, are having long term issues. I had an MRI today due to olfactory hallucinations. I’m also having cardiovascular issues.
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