How does one get into a covid vaccine trial (failure, normal)
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It has already told us most of what we need to know. Thinking it may eventually prove unsafe for any but a small minority, if that, is simply unfounded. Aliens could land in your yard tomorrow too.
And they can discover that the baby aspirin your mom gave you when you had a fever as a toddler can cause fungus to grow out of your ears and turn into a mushroom farm.
I know, that hasn't ever happened, ever, in the history of the human race.
However, maybe they just haven't waited long enough for that FIRST time.
And they can discover that the baby aspirin your mom gave you when you had a fever as a toddler can cause fungus to grow out of your ears and turn into a mushroom farm.
I know, that hasn't ever happened, ever, in the history of the human race.
However, maybe they just haven't waited long enough for that FIRST time.
I once grew mushrooms in a bucket, and it could have caused that too.
Years of research were already done on mRNA vaccines before COVID 19 appeared. So while the final product received an amount of resources that have never before been devoted to a singular cause, it's not like they were starting from scratch here.
There are plenty of sources out there explaining how the process worked to develop the COVID vaccine. And no, this is not an experimental vaccine in the way you are trying to claim.
Umm, yes, yes it is experimental. And in fact none of the mRNA vaccines ever passed animal trials. Do you know why? The animals started dying. And fast. In large numbers. It wasn’t pretty. But you know, so far only 9,000 reported deaths from these vaccines, and 440,000 adverse events. Number keeps climbing rapidly. It’s usually 10x what’s reported. And this is just right now, 2021, can’t wait to see the long term!
But I’m looking on the bright side here, I admit. So 9,000 people went to get a vaccine to prevent themselves from dying of Coronavirus. NONE of those 9,000 died of Coronavirus. That means in that particular subset of the vaccinated, it was 100% effective at preventing death from Coronavirus. Sure, sure, they might have preferred a different way to avoid death from Coronavirus but hey nothing is perfect! I call it a rousing success.
Umm, yes, yes it is experimental. And in fact none of the mRNA vaccines ever passed animal trials. Do you know why? The animals started dying. And fast. In large numbers. It wasn’t pretty. But you know, so far only 9,000 reported deaths from these vaccines, and 440,000 adverse events. Number keeps climbing rapidly. It’s usually 10x what’s reported. And this is just right now, 2021, can’t wait to see the long term!
But I’m looking on the bright side here, I admit. So 9,000 people went to get a vaccine to prevent themselves from dying of Coronavirus. NONE of those 9,000 died of Coronavirus. That means in that particular subset of the vaccinated, it was 100% effective at preventing death from Coronavirus. Sure, sure, they might have preferred a different way to avoid death from Coronavirus but hey nothing is perfect! I call it a rousing success.
All of the vaccines with EUAs in the US have completed animal trials. The people who volunteered for the phase 1 studies did not know the results of the animal studies, which were done concurrently. They should be commended for their courage. There are links to the study results from Pfizer, Moderna, and J&J in this article:
"Vaccine providers are encouraged to report any clinically significant health problem following vaccination to VAERS, whether or not they believe the vaccine was the cause.
Reports may include incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental and unverified information.
The number of reports alone cannot be interpreted or used to reach conclusions about the existence, severity, frequency, or rates of problems associated with vaccines.
VAERS data is limited to vaccine adverse event reports received between 1990 and the most recent date for which data are available.
VAERS data do not represent all known safety information for a vaccine and should be interpreted in the context of other scientific information."
"Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More than 331 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through July 6, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 5,946 reports of death (0.0018%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS, a rare and serious adverse event—blood clots with low platelets—which has caused deaths."
Umm, yes, yes it is experimental. And in fact none of the mRNA vaccines ever passed animal trials. Do you know why? The animals started dying. And fast. In large numbers. It wasn’t pretty. But you know, so far only 9,000 reported deaths from these vaccines, and 440,000 adverse events. Number keeps climbing rapidly. It’s usually 10x what’s reported. And this is just right now, 2021, can’t wait to see the long term!
But I’m looking on the bright side here, I admit. So 9,000 people went to get a vaccine to prevent themselves from dying of Coronavirus. NONE of those 9,000 died of Coronavirus. That means in that particular subset of the vaccinated, it was 100% effective at preventing death from Coronavirus. Sure, sure, they might have preferred a different way to avoid death from Coronavirus but hey nothing is perfect! I call it a rousing success.
Have you seen this video yet where people share their vaccine experience and how they reported it but have been blown off?
One is a 13 year old girl who was healthy before the vaccine trial. She immediately started having issues, by the next morning was in the ER. She's currently in a wheel chair.
The 1st woman that talks was a dental hygienist who is provaccine. She also has all sorts of serious health issues now after one dose of Pfizer.
I suggest the OP watches this video before getting another vaccine on top of the one she already has.
Have you seen this video yet where people share their vaccine experience and how they reported it but have been blown off?
One is a 13 year old girl who was healthy before the vaccine trial. She immediately started having issues, by the next morning was in the ER. She's currently in a wheel chair.
The 1st woman that talks was a dental hygienist who is provaccine. She also has all sorts of serious health issues now after one dose of Pfizer.
I suggest the OP watches this video before getting another vaccine on top of the one she already has.
Is that the one that doctors diagnosed conversion disorder? All of that #%$&$%@# is generated by the anti-vaxxers and basing on the fact that it is a new vaccine with mRNA technology. New technology allowed them leverage in knocking down that door.
If that was diagnosed as conversion disorder then it absolutely it was caused by the vaccine. It can occur within minutes.
Have you seen this video yet where people share their vaccine experience and how they reported it but have been blown off?
One is a 13 year old girl who was healthy before the vaccine trial. She immediately started having issues, by the next morning was in the ER. She's currently in a wheel chair.
The 1st woman that talks was a dental hygienist who is provaccine. She also has all sorts of serious health issues now after one dose of Pfizer.
I suggest the OP watches this video before getting another vaccine on top of the one she already has.
That is terrible and I hope that they and all the others recover.
Both said they are pro-science but I disagree. There are no scientific facts that healthy, young people like the hygienist and the child should get any of these experimental vaccines. Scientific facts are not based on faith. Taking an experimental vaccine "so we can get back to normal" and the failure to question it is faith-based pseudoscience. Unfortunately, they were influenced by the pseudoscience.
I am glad that many people have seemingly had success with the vaccines, at least so far, but we need to be able to identify people who should not receive them. That won't happen if it keeps getting swept under the rug by people who are starting to resemble Salem witch hunters toward anyone speaking out.
That is terrible and I hope that they and all the others recover.
Both said they are pro-science but I disagree. There are no scientific facts that healthy, young people like the hygienist and the child should get any of these experimental vaccines. Scientific facts are not based on faith. Taking an experimental vaccine "so we can get back to normal" and the failure to question it is faith-based pseudoscience. Unfortunately, they were influenced by the pseudoscience.
I am glad that many people have seemingly had success with the vaccines, at least so far, but we need to be able to identify people who should not receive them. That won't happen if it keeps getting swept under the rug by people who are starting to resemble Salem witch hunters toward anyone speaking out.
You are assuming that people don't question it. Some might not, but most intelligent people do question it, read and find out all they can about the science, and then make their decision about whether to get vaccinated. If they can't decide based on raw information, then they may decide based on whether or not they trust the opinions and recommendations of people who know a lot more than they do. You know, experts and specialists and doctors and such.
Clinical trials aren't pseudoscience, and you don't seem to have a good grasp on what is.
You are assuming that people don't question it. Some might not, but most intelligent people do question it, read and find out all they can about the science, and then make their decision about whether to get vaccinated. If they can't decide based on raw information, then they may decide based on whether or not they trust the opinions and recommendations of people who know a lot more than they do. You know, experts and specialists and doctors and such.
Clinical trials aren't pseudoscience, and you don't seem to have a good grasp on what is.
Clinical trials are observations and just one step. I didn't say that trials are pseudoscience.
I'm fine with you expressing faith in Trump's vaccines and his Operation Warp Speed. Thanks, but I'll keep some skepticism until more scientific data becomes available from this experiment.
Clinical trials are observations and just one step. I didn't say that trials are pseudoscience.
I'm fine with you expressing faith in Trump's vaccines and his Operation Warp Speed. Thanks, but I'll keep some skepticism until more scientific data becomes available from this experiment.
You said "Taking an experimental vaccine "so we can get back to normal" and the failure to question it is faith-based pseudoscience."
That isn't even close to what pseudoscience is. What people choose to do or not do is 100% irrelevant to whether pseudoscience has taken place, and yet you are defining it by those choices.
The safety and efficacy of the vaccines is based on science. Denial of this is akin to climate change denial. The overwhelming bulk of evidence is to the contrary.
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