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No. I would if I could but health wise it didn't work for me because of some food allergies I have.
So your comment about how I am 'one of those' who gives 'us all' a bad name meant what then?? You are not part of the 'us' because you are not vegan. And no, I don't call anyone out on their food choices - except the people who try to claim that their choices do not harm animals when they actually DO harm animals. And just for the sake of argument, please enlighten me on these 'ethical' sources of dairy? I do not live in an area where I can personally rescue farmed animals but I do contribute heavily to multiple sanctuaries who do. All my cats and dogs have always been rescues.
I am vegan and I don't believe there are any cruelty free sources of dairy. All dairy comes from animals who are forcibly impregnated time and time again and then their babies (who should be consuming their milk) are ripped away from them at birth and either raised to become another milk machine (females) or raised for a very short time to become veal (males). When they are too old or used up to get pregnant any longer they are also generally slaughtered. You may comfort yourself by saying that you are not eating animals, but you are certainly instrumental in ensuring this industry, and thus the mistreatment of the animals involved, will continue. No one needs milk (and its byproducts) to be healthy except baby cows.
And you'd be wrong. Hundreds of thousands of farms across the US have dairy cows that spend the remainder of their day grazing pastures. Our milk cows were hooked up first thing in the morning while they ate a nice snack of alfalfa to distract them. After being milked they walked out and spent the rest of the day doing what cows do.
But yes, older cattle were sold to the highest bidder.
And you'd be wrong. Hundreds of thousands of farms across the US have dairy cows that spend the remainder of their day grazing pastures. Our milk cows were hooked up first thing in the morning while they ate a nice snack of alfalfa to distract them. After being milked they walked out and spent the rest of the day doing what cows do.
But yes, older cattle were sold to the highest bidder.
I don't think so. No mammal lactates without being having been pregnant. What about the calves that these contented dairy cows birthed? Were they happy being taken from their mothers as soon as they were born? Were the cows happy to have their babies taken? I think the answer to both questions would be a resounding NO. I was friends with someone growing up who had one of these family farms, and the cows spent days crying for their babies in the pasture until they were hoarse, while the babies cried in the barns and were fed powdered milk in bottles so they didn't steal the precious milk that was sold to the dairy industry. And what happened to the calves ultimately? Still thinking it's all bucolic?
I know the defintion but thanks for making my point...ostensibly veganism was put forth for health reasons. But it really offers nothing over vegetarianism. Veganism is 95% about the environment and humane treatment of animals. That's why I said vegans are made, not born.
Apparently you don't because what you posted above is patently false.
I am/was trying to say that vegans get a lot more press than vegetarians and I know for sure that many people don't understand the difference, although you do. When going from a meat eating diet to one that doesn't consume animal products, being a vegetarian is easier than being a vegan
That's absolutely true, and it's why most people who become vegans make it a two (or more) step process from omnivore before finally embracing veganism.
I don't think so. No mammal lactates without being having been pregnant. What about the calves that these contented dairy cows birthed? Were they happy being taken from their mothers as soon as they were born? Were the cows happy to have their babies taken? I think the answer to both questions would be a resounding NO. I was friends with someone growing up who had one of these family farms, and the cows spent days crying for their babies in the pasture until they were hoarse, while the babies cried in the barns and were fed powdered milk in bottles so they didn't steal the precious milk that was sold to the dairy industry. And what happened to the calves ultimately? Still thinking it's all bucolic?
You might be talking about a dairy farm because regular farms do none of that. The calves are with mom and the herd from the get go. Holsteins make more than enough milk to milk even after the calf feeds.
You might be talking about a dairy farm because regular farms do none of that. The calves are with mom and the herd from the get go. Holsteins make more than enough milk to milk even after the calf feeds.
I think it was a dairy farm, so I stand corrected that not all farms with cows have this practice. However, what are the cows' purpose on the regular farms? Just for the family to use for milk? To sell some of the milk also if there is excess? What happens to the cows when they no longer lactate? What happens to the babies ultimately?
It does seem like the term, if not the practice, of vegetarianism has fallen off the face of the earth.
30 years ago I knew a lot of vegetarians and vegans were as rare as unicorns. Now it seems like anyone under the age of 30 knows what a vegan is and the word vegetarian throws them off.
Eh...it used to be cool to be vegetarian, then that wasn't enough. Not healthy enough, not humane enough.
There's really little dietary reason to go vegan though it may make sense if you are lactose intolerant. But most "naturally vegetarian" people (e.g. East Indians) still consume dairy, honey, etc. though perhaps not eggs. There are a lot of varieties of vegetarianism but pretty much one veganism. Vegans are "made", not born.
The only thing that reverses heart disease is diet. Absolutely not one medication reverses heart disease.
That is a very big driver for me.
I was a vegetarian for almost twenty years and went vegan in 2019. It was easy.
The term for "vegetarians" that eat fish is pescatarian. And no a pescatarian is not a vegetarian, they eat fish... duh. But they dont eat red meat or poultry.
Oh and there are what are called "fruitarians", vegans that eat only flesh of fruits which includes lot things besides what most people think of fruit. If it has seed inside then they dont eat the seed, just the flesh of the fruit. The part that the plant is offering animals to entice them to help spread the seed.
There is the media depiction of the air-head blond (usually a teen or early 20s ) that self describes as vegetarian but eats hamburgers and other fast food containing animal products and uses leather. Those are usually the six month to two year kind of vegetarian where its their Bambi phase.... Maybe best described as the Bambi vegetarian.
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