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Old 12-26-2023, 09:18 AM
 
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It does, but then again look around. How many people do you see that who are walking Heart Attacks in Waiting?

Yes, some people have one that's totally unexpected (like me, except maybe in retrospect) but many more look like they are going to have one any minute.
The weird thing is of the sudden deaths that I'm aware of, a good many of them were healthy, even youngish people.

Look at people like Keith Richards (love him!) who has looked like he's been cheating death for decades compared to John Ritter who looked like he still had plenty of years left on this planet.

There have been healthy marathon runners who have dropped dead. Life can be really random.
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Old 12-26-2023, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Juneau, AK + Puna, HI
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There have been healthy marathon runners who have dropped dead. Life can be really random.
Yes there have. Of course, the sudden cardiac death rate for this group is far less than the average for the population overall.
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Old 12-26-2023, 09:45 AM
 
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Yes there have. Of course, the sudden cardiac death rate for this group is far less than the average for the population overall.
I've actually personally known more people who have suffered sudden cardiac death after running or they were at least regular runners who collapsed suddenly at home.

Over exercising can be stressful on the body and the heart in particular.
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Old 12-26-2023, 10:20 AM
 
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From the paper:

The traditional dominant risk factor for sudden death is coronary artery disease. However, we have found, as have others,[12,13] that coronary artery disease is less common in the modern era than anticipated.[14] Other risk factors are common and include hypertension,[15,16] left ventricular hypertrophy,[16,17] diabetes,[18] metabolic syndrome,[19] chronic respiratory disease,[20,21] mental illness,[22,23] and substance misuse.

Sudden cardiac death is a real thing on my mothers side, she (74), her father (64) and her grandfather (60) died suddenly.
I don't think any were diagnosed with cardiac issues before their death.

Smoking nearly killed my BIL, he is very lucky not to be suddenly dead of arterial fissure. His father died of similar cause but BIL was somehow not aware he was at risk too.

I also remember a 40-something female client I knew years back who died suddenly on a treadmill while being given cardiac test. Yes apparently she had a cardiac problem.

Trying to be proactive with my own health I asked my primary doc what test I can take to check my cardiac health.
She said there are not many but if I was willing to pay $200 in case my insurance rejected it she'd schedule one.

I'll have to look the test name up because I couldn't schedule the only date they had available (and re-schedule!)

The probability of "sudden death" is quite a new concept to understand.
Seems to be both important and undiscussed.
Because of family history my husband and I both had Coronary CT Calcium scans last month to get our Coronary Artery Calcium/CAC scores, the amount of calcified plaque in our arteries. This wasn't covered by insurance and cost us about $120. We have different doctors that recommended different additional tests. Neither of us had any other health issues or symptoms but we both have some calcified plaque, which is scary. But now we know. We've both been put on low dose statins which are supposed to stop/slow additional calcification.

We're both 65, active, healthy weight, don't eat junk, don't drink alcohol or smoke. We've had fit, healthy friends die that sudden death recently.

Good thread topic.
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Old 12-26-2023, 10:33 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Random thought: Nature may have little interest in human beings longevity once they have reproduced the next generation and that generation is self-sufficient. So maybe death over the age of 45 in a non-event...unless it's your death or someone you love.

Researching my and husbands family cause of death is my 2024 goal now.
I've done genealogy research in previous years on familysearch.org and just noticed his male line is short-lived (40-50s), his father grew up with grandmother because father-mother both died, now he needs to find cause of death to see if it may improve his chances for longer life. He's 75 and doing fine.
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Old 12-26-2023, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Juneau, AK + Puna, HI
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Because of family history my husband and I both had Coronary CT Calcium scans last month to get our Coronary Artery Calcium/CAC scores, the amount of calcified plaque in our arteries. This wasn't covered by insurance and cost us about $120. We have different doctors that recommended different additional tests. Neither of us had any other health issues or symptoms but we both have some calcified plaque, which is scary. But now we know. We've both been put on low dose statins which are supposed to stop/slow additional calcification.

We're both 65, active, healthy weight, don't eat junk, don't drink alcohol or smoke. We've had fit, healthy friends die that sudden death recently.

Good thread topic.
A very wise decision on your part. That's the thing: The so called "healthy" avid exercisers are in fact not healthy, they just don't know it because there's an underlying, undiscovered problem. Whether they would have died even earlier (or instead later) if not working to improve their fitness is the question...
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Old 12-26-2023, 10:37 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Because of family history my husband and I both had Coronary CT Calcium scans last month to get our Coronary Artery Calcium/CAC scores, the amount of calcified plaque in our arteries. This wasn't covered by insurance and cost us about $120. We have different doctors that recommended different additional tests. Neither of us had any other health issues or symptoms but we both have some calcified plaque, which is scary. But now we know. We've both been put on low dose statins which are supposed to stop/slow additional calcification.

We're both 65, active, healthy weight, don't eat junk, don't drink alcohol or smoke. We've had fit, healthy friends die that sudden death recently.

Good thread topic.


Thanks! That was the test my doctor scheduled and I need to get done.
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Old 12-26-2023, 10:51 AM
 
Location: PNW
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I hope you get the answers you seek. I'm sorry for your loss.

A sudden death at 60 seems pretty shocking even though it happens. A sudden death at 90 seems less surprising as they have lived well beyond the age of average life expectancy. Either way, it can be jarring to those left behind.
After 55 they no longer put "unexpected" on your death certificate.
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Old 12-26-2023, 10:54 AM
 
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Maybe read the link before commenting?
That's not a requirement for that sort of commenter, LOL.
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Old 12-26-2023, 12:03 PM
 
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After 55 they no longer put "unexpected" on your death certificate.
Dang. Makes you realize that we better live and enjoy life while we have it.
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