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Old 04-08-2024, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Kocaeli, Turkey
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Are people who live healtier any more likely to die less painfully?

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Old 04-08-2024, 09:48 AM
 
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No.
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Old 04-08-2024, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Juneau, AK + Puna, HI
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Yes, because your risk of dying from a painful disease such as cancer is decreased.
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Old 04-08-2024, 02:01 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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Yes, because your risk of dying from a painful disease such as cancer is decreased.
I had cancer, and there was no pain at all caused by it, only the treatments were painful. People die in their sleep from heart attacks or other illness all the time, without pain. I would say no, not only can a healthy person die in great pain from various sudden medical events and being healthy doesn't help if you are shot or hit by a bus.
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Old 04-08-2024, 02:45 PM
 
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I had cancer, and there was no pain at all caused by it, only the treatments were painful. People die in their sleep from heart attacks or other illness all the time, without pain. I would say no, not only can a healthy person die in great pain from various sudden medical events and being healthy doesn't help if you are shot or hit by a bus.
This (though obviously if you're writing this post you didn't die from your cancer and can't say with any certainty how painful that was ). Hopefully you never find out!
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Old 04-08-2024, 02:46 PM
 
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Are people who live healtier any more likely to die less painfully?
Bizarre question.

Last time I looked, how healthy a person was made no difference how much pain they suffered after being blown up by a bomb, shot by a home intruder, mangled in a car accident, or flattened by a speeding bus. A seemingly healthy person could die from a burst aneurism or brain bleed. Who knows how much pain they were in when they died. They can't come back from beyond the grave to tell anyone.
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Old 04-09-2024, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Are people who live healtier any more likely to die less painfully?
Yes and no.

Today many people are obese and that brings in its wake many other ailments.

I look around among our friends. Most of whom are obese and often with failing kidneys. Our neighbor just died months ago from kidney failure and dialysis.

Look around inside a Walmart. You will see a lot of obese people riding electric carts, when walking would be the best therapy for them, but instead, they ride and grow fatter.

During the recent plannedemic, most people who died of the 'Rona' actually died from Co-Morbidities. The virus brought down their immune systems to such an extent that all of their other ailments were enough to kill them. If they had refused to carry those other ailments then the Rona would not have killed them.

A few years ago, my A1C got too high. My PCP wanted to start me on diabetes drugs. From my research those diabetes drugs are a one-way path to insulin resistance and eventual kidney failure. I refused the drugs and instead changed my diet, my A1C went back down, and my PCP dropped it.

Anyone could be struck by lightning at anytime. Even a very healthy person can drop dead. But the majority of our population chooses to be sick, to carry ailments that threaten their lives.
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Old 04-09-2024, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Juneau, AK + Puna, HI
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...Look around inside a Walmart. You will see a lot of obese people riding electric carts, when walking would be the best therapy for them, but instead, they ride and grow fatter..
Overweight are much more likely to suffer from extreme arthritis pain too, which is probably the most common pain complaint for the elderly.

I believe the OP meant the pain suffered during the gradual process of dying a so called "normal" death, not that experienced at the moment of dying.

However, it could be the latter is also true. Sort of hard to tell for sure, right?
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Old 04-09-2024, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Overweight are much more likely to suffer from extreme arthritis pain too, which is probably the most common pain complaint for the elderly.

I believe the OP meant the pain suffered during the gradual process of dying a so called "normal" death, not that experienced at the moment of dying.

However, it could be the latter is also true. Sort of hard to tell for sure, right?
Yes, exactly.

I have multiple friends who are currently going through the end-stage process of dying.

They are miserable and in pain.

All of this obesity and diabetes leads eventually to organ failure and dialysis. Which destroys your arteries, and eventually leads to a slow painful death.
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Old 04-09-2024, 09:17 AM
 
Location: A Yankee in northeast TN
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Yes, because your risk of dying from a painful disease such as cancer is decreased.
Cancer... maybe, maybe not. SOME cancers might be the result of unhealthy lifestyle choices, but many are not, or at least they aren't/ weren't consciously unhealthy choices. My ex has a form of cancer from years of breathing noxious paint fumes, before it was widely know how damaging those fumes were.
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