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You folks questioning the study-Come on, really? As if you know better how to conduct one than the Harvard school of health.
"..Per the Post, Guasch-Ferré said that “intervention studies are needed to confirm causal associations and optimal quantity of olive oil intake." The study found an association between olive oil consumption and lower risk of dying from dementia, and it did not find a casual relationship.
Researchers also shared with the Post that they couldn't differentiate between which varieties of olive oil were used in the lengthy study..."
You folks questioning the study-Come on, really? As if you know better how to conduct one than the Harvard school of health.
"..Per the Post, Guasch-Ferré said that “intervention studies are needed to confirm causal associations and optimal quantity of olive oil intake." The study found an association between olive oil consumption and lower risk of dying from dementia, and it did not find a casual relationship.
Researchers also shared with the Post that they couldn't differentiate between which varieties of olive oil were used in the lengthy study..."
Maybe not questioning the mechanics of the study design itself, but how to interpret the results and extrapolate them into real life applications. Any experienced researcher will tell you how difficult it can be to ask the right question (which launches the investigation). When a research study is designed, an appropriate and limited, specific hypothesis needs to be created. Any experienced researcher will also tell you how difficult it is to pose a meaningful hypothesis. It may be the hardest aspect of the whole endeavor. Then data collection is designed to answer that very specific question, not to reach some sweeping conclusion. Anything outside that scope becomes speculation. It means results also end up being very/ very specific to avoid injecting crippling amounts of bias. Which demands a lot more research on other associated questions. That makes one isolated study very difficult to apply to real life.
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Harvard School of Public Health?....They are the ones that conducted the Framingham Study and were the first to conclude that chol causes heart attacks...Well, ruminate on this for a while--
We all know MI rates go up with age....and chol levels go up with age...What the study showed as that at any given age bracket, higher chol levels were associated with higher MI rates....They stopped there and assumed the chol was the cause and MiI the effect (without any proof)....That led to the multi billion dollar fraud of Statin therapy.
It should be known to all that arterial plaque is the "band aid" that patches arterial intima (lining) damage. A crack Induced by physical/mechanical stress (like hi bp) or oxidative stress (there's plenty of oxygen & oxidants in our blood-- and chol is not sn oxidant) causes cracks in the intima and that sets off the coagulation cascade & immune system. Fibrinogen is turned to fibrin which forms a net which starts physically collecting lipids, chol. WBCs etc to form plaque-- quite a analogous
to forming a clot, then scab on a cut on your skin....It is likely that the higher the chol level, the more chol gets recruited into the plaque. The chol didn't cause the injury, but it is involved in the response to the injury....
Now consider this additionally....Old tires and fanbelts (rubber) on a car show dry rot with age even when not usd. Oxygen in the air is constantly degrading the rubber over time....Same with oxidative injury to tissue (like arteries or skeletal joints)-- they accumulate over time and as the inflammation increases, it involves recruiting additional WBCs, immunoglobulins, fibrinogen...and why not chol too?...
Those geniuses at Harvard SHOULD have offered the hypothesis that chol levels go up in RESPONSE to arteriosclerosis, not as the cause.
Their hypothesis begs the question, still unanswered by the research, of HOW does chol cause arterial damage?...My hypothesis that arterial injury causes a rise in chol, takes the full picture into account....It also explains why statins have an embarrassingly low rate of efficacy.
And what did Harvard tell us about CoVid?...It's been many decade since ethics and altruism was a regular part of scientific research. Now, it's all about money, politics and ego.
FWIW-- any study that relies on questionnaires and memories and things that can't be reliabley quantified shouldn't be published, but used only, as Panassia suggests, as a basis for forming a testable hypothesis and a legitimate research experiment.
"..Dr. Tessier speculated on what it is about olive oil that results in its brain benefits:
“Olive oil may play a beneficial role in cognitive health through its rich content in monounsaturated fatty acids, which may promote neurogenesis. It also contains vitamin E and polyphenolsTrusted Source that have antioxidant activity.”
Dr. Domenico Praticò, director and professor at the Alzheimer’s Center at Temple University, who was not involved in the study, noted that “other compounds such as oleocanthal and oleuropein are [also] considered beneficial.”
“There is also some evidence showing that it is the combination of all these different compounds more than a single element responsible for the positive effects,” Dr. Praticò added..."
Harvard School of Public Health?....They are the ones that conducted the Framingham Study and were the first to conclude that chol causes heart attacks...Well, ruminate on this for a while--.
I believe it was Boston U, not Harvard. I also believe the rest of your post is all wet, but we digress..
...and perhaps the "expert" you quoted above should take that same advice. Both retrospective and prospective studies have shown that people taking Vit E supplements haver HIGHER rates of MI than those who don't. So much for the benefit of antioxidants.
Maybe the so called benefit of using unsaturated fats & oils is that mammals don't use them very efficiently. Our lipid metabolism is based on saturated fat. Plants make and use unsaturated lipids. More of the unsaturated ones just pass right thru us, so to speak.
Japan has about the highest incidence rate of dementia in the world... which make sense as they live a long time and have a rapidly shrinking population, so lots of old people which is who has dementia. Being an obese smoker and an alcoholic is negatively correlated with dementia as you're not likely to live long enough to get dementia.
...and perhaps the "expert" you quoted above should take that same advice. Both retrospective and prospective studies have shown that people taking Vit E supplements haver HIGHER rates of MI than those who don't. So much for the benefit of antioxidants.
Maybe the so called benefit of using unsaturated fats & oils is that mammals don't use them very efficiently. Our lipid metabolism is based on saturated fat. Plants make and use unsaturated lipids. More of the unsaturated ones just pass right thru us, so to speak.
WTF does your link show in regards to the college associated with Framingham?
What? People cook with olive oil all the time. You can't fry with it, but you can sauté, which is at a lower temp.
You can lightly fry with it also. Things like sliced zucchini or eggplant, and fish that cook quickly. You aren't going to deep fry chicken and that sort of food that takes a long time to cook in very hot oil. You just need to watch it and not turn the heat way up, but it's still hot enough to fry. I only use olive oil at home and do it all the time without it smoking or burning.
You can also roast veggies in the oven drizzled and or coated with olive oil like broccoli, cabbage, green beans, cauliflower. I also use it for baking whenever a recipe calls for vegetable or canola oil like pumpkin bread or some muffins. It works quite well and I don't taste any difference in the final product. Traditional foccacia bread which is baked in the oven always has a liberal amount of olive oil. Hey, I'm Mediterranean. Olive oil is the only thing I know, .
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