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Old 04-05-2014, 03:00 PM
 
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As if there were not calls then and now that the Allies should have.



Cooperation gained at the point of a German 88mm.

If in 1939 France or Britain were waiting for the U.S. or the Soviet Union to "bail" them out after the Soviet's had signed a non-aggression pact with the Nazi or that the U.S. was in anyway able or inclined to enter into another European war, those signs that you mentioned would indicate that someone has little to no clue about the history of WWII.
They stalled while using pawns like Poland to do their fighting for them. Yeah right cooperation at the point of a German 88mm. The Nazis hardly needed any men in France because the French were practically doing the rounding up of Jews for them.
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Old 04-05-2014, 06:19 PM
 
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They stalled while using pawns like Poland to do their fighting for them. Yeah right cooperation at the point of a German 88mm. The Nazis hardly needed any men in France because the French were practically doing the rounding up of Jews for them.
See the last line of my previous post.
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Old 04-05-2014, 07:49 PM
 
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Look up Auschwitz, Treblinka, Belzec, Sobibor, Majdanek, the Warsaw ghetto.

Ask the families of the survivors of those camps, and that ghetto if Poland was right for fighting the Nazis.
Yes and there was forced deportations of Polish civilians, the kidnapping of Aryan looking Polish children to German families, the deliberate destruction of cities by the Nazis in cities such as Warsaw. The execution of dissidents, Jews.

Even though mostly jews went to the concentration camps there were plenty of non Jewish Polish people that went to the concentration camps did not survive there.
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Old 04-05-2014, 11:42 PM
 
Location: London
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If in 1939 France or Britain were waiting for the U.S. or the Soviet Union to "bail" them out after the Soviet's had signed a non-aggression pact with the Nazi or that the U.S. was in anyway able or inclined to enter into another European war, those signs that you mentioned would indicate that someone has little to no clue about the history of WWII.
100% correct !
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Old 04-05-2014, 11:47 PM
 
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My feeling is that the whole argument about the "Phony War," while great fodder for debate is like the argument that the Allies should have fought the Red Army for eastern Europe or even that there was anything realistically that anyone could do about the Soviet annex annexation of the Crimea. All three were a faits accompli. Poland was invaded on the 1st of September by the Germans and the Soviets on the 19th. By the 6th of October, Poland had ceased to exist as a state. How France with the Army that it had - not the one that they had on paper - was to bring about the capitulation of Germany in time to save Poland is beyond my mortal comprehension.
Hitler knew that if he invaded Poland he would be facing the might of the French and British Empire. Most sane people would back off. The French army was far larger than the German and had more and better tanks. Having to turn and fight that would be daunting.
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Old 04-05-2014, 11:48 PM
 
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Difference being Allies never declared War on the Red Army for Eastern Europe.

Judging by France's cooperation with the Nazis and UK's death count, all signs point to UK/France wanting to stall and be bailed out by others: USSR & USA.
What a muddled and confused post.
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Old 04-06-2014, 03:49 AM
 
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Hitler knew that if he invaded Poland he would be facing the might of the French and British Empire. Most sane people would back off. The French army was far larger than the German and had more and better tanks. Having to turn and fight that would be daunting.
What a nationalistic post. The same "might" Nazis kicked around and spared until Barbarossa occurred?
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Old 04-06-2014, 03:55 AM
 
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What a nationalistic post. The same "might" Nazis kicked around and spared until Barbarossa occurred?
It was nationalistic? Wow! It is best you at least try to understand simple points and logic. Engaging with you is futile.
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Old 04-06-2014, 03:57 AM
 
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It was nationalistic? Wow! It is best you at least try to understand simple points and logic. Engaging with you is futile.
You seem like an individual that would be wearing this sort of shirt

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Old 04-06-2014, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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You seem like an individual that would be wearing this sort of shirt
That you would think John-UK would be sporting American flag gear to show his nationalistic pride says all anyone needs to know about your qualifications on this forum.
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