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Old 01-19-2017, 07:51 AM
 
Location: West of Louisiana, East of New Mexico
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It all depends on what you value most in a fight. The samurai has speed, the knight has size/protection and the Viking has...ferocity?

The Viking is definitely 3rd place. Against a poorly trained foe, they're unstoppable...but against someone with real skill, I'm not sure they have the discipline to win.

The Knight may have the best skills on a horse (though technically they'd get slaughtered by Mongols on a horse), but I don't think we should include horsemanship. Can a NASCAR driver win a fight against young Muhammad Ali? Sure if the driver is in their car. Can they win that same fight in a open field? Probably not.

My money is on the samurai. Knight armor is heavy. Not a big deal when everyone is fighting with the same armor, but a significant disadvantage against more mobile foes.

 
Old 01-19-2017, 09:07 AM
 
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Time is the essence, more modern weapons.

Face Hernan Cortez' 400 men with 50 Mexican trops using Remington rifles and MGs in 1850.
 
Old 01-19-2017, 09:55 AM
 
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Knight armor is heavy. Not a big deal when everyone is fighting with the same armor, but a significant disadvantage against more mobile foes.
The mobility/agility loss due to armor has been overstated. War is a practical business, knights weren't dumb, and historically, their role in defense would be to dismount and fight on foot among the lower ranks. For the knight, the mounted charge was perhaps the pinnacle of his craft, but he was very much an all-round soldier.

It was considered a major morale booster to be able to reinforce the ranks with knights, and that wasn't because they were liabilities when faced with enemies without armor.

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Old 01-19-2017, 10:07 AM
 
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mobile forces against armory were heaveyy specialised and became refined during remaissance, floret,
Armory became extinct with freamerms. and florets.

No the cases of armed chivaly.... that were defeated thanks to pikes.
 
Old 01-19-2017, 10:21 AM
 
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The Vikings might win if it's a home game at US Bank Stadium. On the road, dome teams rarely do well.

The Samurai has big rollover problems. Consumer Reports slammed it.

Gotta go with the Knights. I'm a Patriots fan and New England has three Rutgers defensive backs. Devin McCourty for the win!
Depends if the Knights are the new Golden Knights. https://www.nhl.com/goldenknights/ne...se/c-283997132
 
Old 01-19-2017, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Elysium
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The mobility/agility loss due to armor has been overstated. War is a practical business, knights weren't dumb, and historically, their role in defense would be to dismount and fight on foot among the lower ranks. For the knight, the mounted charge was perhaps the pinnacle of his craft, but he was very much an all-round soldier.

It was considered a major morale booster to be able to reinforce the ranks with knights, and that wasn't because they were liabilities when faced with enemies without armor.
A modern main battle tank can keep fighting and aid the local infantry if it loses a track. But then a light tank can easily maneuver around to find its weakness. Move, shoot and communicate. Samurai wins 2 for 3. Mobility shock effect and protection the European knight takes 2 of 3. Terrain will tell the difference
 
Old 01-19-2017, 05:46 PM
 
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What if the knight had trained swallows that could fly over the viking or samurai and drop coconuts on their head?
 
Old 01-19-2017, 06:04 PM
 
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For sheer barbaric force, I'd say the Viking...
 
Old 01-19-2017, 07:50 PM
 
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Batman. Wait, no, Superman! Wait.....

Nevermind, I can't decide.
 
Old 01-19-2017, 11:05 PM
 
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If the battle was in snow or a naval battle the Vikings would have a significant advantage. If close quarter combat I'd give the samurai the advantage. If we're talking mounted on horseback and wide open terrain then clearly a knight.

Knights and samurai both had some sort of honor code whereas the Viking did whatever he needed. The knight may also vary based upon chain mail vs plate armor. Also is he also an archer on mounted only. The inferior armor and smaller size will definitely hurt the samurai. Their weapondry and tactics weren't designed against full plate mail.
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