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Old 01-20-2017, 12:12 AM
 
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What if the knight had trained swallows that could fly over the viking or samurai and drop coconuts on their head?
African or European swallows?
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Old 01-20-2017, 05:50 AM
 
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The knight looses out every time. The armor weighs too much and is a burden to work with.

The viking would crush the Knight and if the knight was on a horse, all that is needed is to knock him off the horse. Have you imagined being out in an armor suit in the day time?

The Viking relies on the team to get things done. Also the attack takes place on water. It is brute strength. On a one on one fight the Viking can over come the safety of the armor. Possibly not the skill of the samurai.

The Samurai uses not only the speed and the blade, but the mind and stealth.

My choice is the Samurai.


Seventh Century Vikings against Mounted Knights that appeared 120-150 later?


Mounted Knight, let's say the same mounted knights created by William the Conqueror, whose great-great-great-great father was Rollo, The Viking, would have cut Viking to pieces.

Vikings were just pirates and thiefs, their first weapon was terror, no different from pirates from the 17th century.
 
Old 01-20-2017, 05:54 AM
 
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For sheer barbaric force, I'd say the Viking...

Romantics.
Franks and Ostrgoths would have crushed them to death.
They could never face a Roman cohort, they would receive their pilums 7 meters before approach.
Their advantaged? Attacking destroyed and uninhabited countries under political turmoil during the HIGH MIDDLE AGES. 8th century.
 
Old 01-20-2017, 07:02 AM
 
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African or European swallows?
I, I don't know.......aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ah
 
Old 01-20-2017, 07:43 AM
 
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A Katana is not designed for piercing which you will need to get into a knights armor, only chance for samurai is to handle it from range. Once closed to melee range a knight with a long sword/mace which are designed for fighting armored opponents *and* a shield is going to be at an advantage, not to mention the average European has a general size advantage over the average Japanese person. The vikings don't really factor in as they were not really a military force, their expertise was hit and run on mostly undefended civilian populations.

Fight stays at range: Samurai
Fight ends up in melee range: Knight
 
Old 01-20-2017, 08:15 AM
 
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An armoured mounted knight. They were to medieval warfare what the tank was to 20th century warfare.
 
Old 01-20-2017, 08:42 AM
 
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An armoured mounted knight. They were to medieval warfare what the tank was to 20th century warfare.
And just like a tank today without lighter forces to scout for them are highly vulnerable to forces with enough mobility. An army with a knight shock force should be able to crash into things that a Samurai shock force was not heavy enough to bust through
 
Old 01-20-2017, 11:32 AM
 
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More information is needed. Armor changed a lot for knights and samurai through the centuries.
 
Old 01-20-2017, 11:39 AM
 
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Samurai has speed and stealth.
Knight has armor and extensive training.
Viking has unpredictability and brute force.

I think the Samurai would have either killed before they even knew what hit them. The Viking is unmatched with a well trained Knight. So,

Sumurai > Knight > Viking.
 
Old 01-20-2017, 12:09 PM
 
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I've always considered to the Vikings to be overrated as warriors. Their strength was the element of surprise, the classic viking "raid", striking unsuspecting enemies with overwhelming force. People always point to their rapid conquest of most of England. But the fact is that they were against a weak and divided enemy. England was divided into many separate Anglo-Saxon kingdoms, rivaled against one another. Once the Anglo-Saxons gained a sense of unity under Alfred the Great, they arguably proved themselves to be superior warriors, reconquering the Danelaw and reestablished Saxon supremacy for many years to come.
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