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Old 05-25-2022, 05:40 PM
 
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Mongols, and Timurid. It seems like the nomads always took brutality to newer levels
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Old 05-25-2022, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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MY VOTE: POLITICAL ISLAM
Tears of Jihad (1400 years and counting)
Kafir Deaths (cumulative)
• Christians : 60 million
• Buddhists : 10 million
• Hindus : 80 million
• Africans : 120 million
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Total : 270 million
Source : www.politicalislam.com
(Not to mention the millions captured, enslaved, castrated and abused.)

Body count
“Peaceful” Islam : 270 million (conservative); 700+ million (their boasts)

"Evil" Spanish Inquisition : 3000-5000 over 350 years (14 per year, worst case)

THEIR OWN WORDS
https://web.archive.org/web/20181231...de-in-history/

Muslim historian Firishta [full name Muhammad Qasim Hindu Shah, born in 1560 and died in 1620], the author of the Tarikh-i Firishta and the Gulshan-i Ibrahim, was the first to give an idea to the medieval bloodbath that was India during Muslim rule, when he declared that over 400 million Hindus got slaughtered during Muslim invasion and occupation of India. Survivors got enslaved and castrated. India’s population is said to have been around 600 million at the time of Muslim invasion. By the mid 1500’s the Hindu population was 200 million.

Muslim chroniclers claim a far greater tally of deaths.
COMMUNISM DEATH TALLY
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_ki...munist_regimes
• USSR: 20 million deaths;
• China: 65 million deaths;
• Vietnam: 1 million deaths;
• North Korea: 2 million deaths;
• Cambodia: 2 million deaths;
• Eastern Europe: 1 million deaths;
• Latin America: 150,000 deaths;
• Africa: 1.7 million deaths;
• Afghanistan: 1.5 million deaths;
• the international Communist movement and Communist parties not in power: about 10,000 deaths.
. . .
Approximately 94.36 million deaths in a span of a century.
Impressive! May even exceed Islam’s cumulative total of 270 million - someday.
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Old 05-25-2022, 08:43 PM
 
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The USA.

Yes, others have caused more deaths .... so far, but being brutal is how you get on top. It's just the way of this world.

It's really sad but it's the way the world is.

To the credit of the USA, they have tried to change this ... which cannot be changed.

Take care of yourself and your family.
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Old 05-25-2022, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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Show me a good empire.
I think all were bad, just some worse than that.
No people in antiquity would ever have succeeded in winning an empire had they doubted their licence to slaughter and enslave the vanquished.
Whether the experience of this was ‘bad’ depended on who you were.

To understand them better read this:

https://www.historytoday.com/archive...res-always-bad
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Old 05-26-2022, 04:27 AM
 
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Highest per-capita casualties involved the Thirty Years' War and the Second World War.


For a long timeline, I think it was the Mongol Empire.
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Old 05-26-2022, 05:41 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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The USA.

Yes, others have caused more deaths .... so far, but being brutal is how you get on top. It's just the way of this world.

It's really sad but it's the way the world is.

To the credit of the USA, they have tried to change this ... which cannot be changed.

Take care of yourself and your family.
The USA doesn't have an 'Empire'?
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Old 05-26-2022, 06:34 AM
 
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The USA doesn't have an 'Empire'?
Not any more.

Back at the formation of the Republican and the emergence of Manifest Destiny, there were some politicians who referred to an American Empire, one that would eventually span the continent.

After the Spanish-American War, the US gained the former Spanish colonies of Puerto Rico and the Philippines. This was in addition to the purchase of Alaska from Russia and the annexation of the Hawaiian Islands.

The US eventually divested itself of nearly all of its Pacific and Spanish holdings in the late 20th Century. Only a few island-based territories in the Pacific Ocean and the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico in the Caribbean remain.

What the US does have now is a hegemony. It doesn't rule an empire, but it does lease land from other nations for many, many military bases world-wide. It doesn't rule other lands, but it does exert an influence over them, and sometimes that influence can be rather heavy.
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Old 05-26-2022, 01:56 PM
 
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The USA doesn't have an 'Empire'?

Humboldt, a student of Blumenbach, gave the impression that the U.S. is just a front for all the Euro companymen, privatiers, freebooters & pirates from the furthest reaches of the global plantation system.
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Old 05-26-2022, 02:34 PM
 
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Humboldt, a student of Blumenbach, gave the impression that the U.S. is just a front for all the Euro companymen, privatiers, freebooters & pirates from the furthest reaches of the global plantation system.
I'm guessing that you're referring to Alexander von Humboldt, who travelled in the Americas from 1799 to 1804. Back then, his opinion might have been somewhat accurate.
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Old 05-26-2022, 04:43 PM
 
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I don't have an answer 'yet'.

But I would like to say that in modern times, the equivalent of raping and pillaging would be company owners and co-workers.

Like whipping co-workers and underlings into high productivity while you go spend half the day at Target or on the golf course.

And I do sometimes think of it in that way.

At least you're not murdering me, and raping my women, stealing all my goods, and using my dead body as fertilizer for your garden!
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