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Going back to the "Embargo"...
Considering that 80 percent of food is imported from the US and that wheat and rice (the main staples) are American, I don't see any embargo anywhere.
Most so, the second (some say that the first) source of income are remittances from the US...
Many people in Havana watch DirectTV though illegal cable TV...
Considering that many "private" ventures, such "casas particulares", "paladares" and "private transportation" are financed by American money, not much embargo..
The only real embargo is the economic system.
And I agree, which is why I was citing the availability of American products in Cuba.
But considering that there is 'no embargo' except in a nominal sense, why not get rid of it on paper? We both agree its Fidel's archaic economic system that is the problem. So, remove the scapegoat and take us out of the calculus. Let the world, at least those who cannot figure out the obvious, see it for the failure it is.
That's way out of context. How many countries have US personnel attempting to murder the head of state and dump $Millions into programs designed to foster and foment revolution and destabilize the country?
Through coercion and threat of force, the US and UK blocked the ascension of all currencies in "communist" countries from being traded on the international market.
The quality of life and standard of living is vastly superior in Cuban compared to other Latin American countries where the US exerts it's ghastly foreign policy.
The quality of life and standard of living would have been even higher had Cuban currency been allowed to be traded freely on the international market.
I didn't say the US didn't mess with other countries...I explained that the communists ALSO exerted a lot of influence. Your currency complaint already was debunked so I won't address that futher.
Consider what the USSR did in oh...Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Central America, Poland, Ukraine, Korea, Vietnam....the list goes on and on.
The quality of life etc. in Cuba is comparable to Puerto Rico. Other countries have major major issues stemming from overpopulation which is a religious\cultural phenomenon. Lastly, Cuba is a unique country much larger than the other island nations and has greater resources....and also received lots of foreign aid from the USSR for decades.
Personally, I think we just completely drop all "embargos" and leave Cuba the heck alone.
P.S. The population density of most carribean and south american nations is a crushing burden. Might make for a good thread.
And I agree, which is why I was citing the availability of American products in Cuba.
But considering that there is 'no embargo' except in a nominal sense, why not get rid of it on paper? We both agree its Fidel's archaic economic system that is the problem. So, remove the scapegoat and take us out of the calculus. Let the world, at least those who cannot figure out the obvious, see it for the failure it is.
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That would be like yielding to a gangster, it would mean a moral victory for him and for his acolytes. Anyways, the US will never do that, not because of the Cuban Lobby, but because the Congress will never approve it.
That would be like yielding to a gangster, it would mean a moral victory for him and for his acolytes. Anyways, the US will never do that, not because of the Cuban Lobby, but because the Congress will never approve it.
Not really. Castro is a goon, but he pales in comparison with some of the other goons out there. No embargo would actually be more damaging to him as it takes away his scapegoat. That is not yielding to anything.
The reality, and this is what the Left will never comprehend, is that he is just another Latin American Caudillo strutting around in a uniform.
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You want to try that logic again?
Here is the question:
I'm still waiting. Show me the nation that tried communism and was left in peace on a level table to play it out. You cant, and your proof that you can't redoubles with every evasion.
there is one country where communism does indeed work well, though not flawlessly. think really hard and the obvious answer will come to you.
Not really. Castro is a goon, but he pales in comparison with some of the other goons out there. No embargo would actually be more damaging to him as it takes away his scapegoat. That is not yielding to anything.
The reality, and this is what the Left will never comprehend, is that he is just another Latin American Caudillo strutting around in a uniform.
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but he pales in comparison with some of the other goons out there?
Who? Stalin, Gengis Khan, Pol Pot?
I don't know any other leader that has destroyed a country so thoroughly.
Yes, he's another LA Caudillo, but he was smart enough to choose the USSR. But again, all Marxist leaders are goons and caudillos.
In Cuba, the prices in "Shoppings", "Agros" and supermarkets are far higher than in Miami.
No, they would live well with the trash generated by a P.R. family, but they don't have that trash. They barely survive. There's almost no trash in Cuba.
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