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Let's say we were at war with Canada and Mexico. It looked like they were going to surrender to the USA. Germans stepped in and said, don't surrender to the USA. If you promise us Florida after the war we'll bring the Germans in the war on your side. When you go to Canada to sign the Treaty of Vancouver with the USA you will force the Americans to sign over Florida to us.
Would the Americans hate the Germans? But this is what we did to Germany after WWI. Israel was promised to the Chosen. After WWI and WWII we took land from Germany. This land should be given back to the Germans. That land was not won by the country it was given to. The USA had no business in the war.
When considering war and national morality it's impossible to separate the way a war unfolded on a play-by-play basis, and the national stories on the reasons behind the wars. If one side was seen as unjustly starting starting the war or being generally an unjust government in someway, then land trades and side-taking will be excused.
Not saying we should or shouldn't have been in WWI, just that the analogy showing the play-by-play basis isn't really how one would consider right and wrong, unless the play-by-play involved inherently moral actions such as torture or mass killings or something.
Let's say we were at war with Canada and Mexico. It looked like they were going to surrender to the USA. Germans stepped in and said, don't surrender to the USA. If you promise us Florida after the war we'll bring the Germans in the war on your side. When you go to Canada to sign the Treaty of Vancouver with the USA you will force the Americans to sign over Florida to us.
Would the Americans hate the Germans? But this is what we did to Germany after WWI. Israel was promised to the Chosen. After WWI and WWII we took land from Germany. This land should be given back to the Germans. That land was not won by the country it was given to. The USA had no business in the war.
This is pretty loopy, barely makes sense. Not sure why you even threw in Israel. Plus, the US didn't take any land from Germany. It's not like we ended up making Niedersachsen a state or territory or something. Other countries did, such as Poland: in the first war its creation partly involved former German territory, and after the second it was essentially pruned and shoved west by the USSR at Germany's expense. Nor was the US the only country in either war with a postwar bone to pick with Germany and its allies, nor was it even the country that did the bulk of fighting against Germany in either war.
Let's say we were at war with Canada and Mexico. It looked like they were going to surrender to the USA. Germans stepped in and said, don't surrender to the USA. If you promise us Florida after the war we'll bring the Germans in the war on your side. When you go to Canada to sign the Treaty of Vancouver with the USA you will force the Americans to sign over Florida to us.
Would the Americans hate the Germans? But this is what we did to Germany after WWI. Israel was promised to the Chosen. After WWI and WWII we took land from Germany. This land should be given back to the Germans. That land was not won by the country it was given to. The USA had no business in the war.
Umm... Holocaust and world domination? Am I to feel sorry for the Nazis now? Besides, you can have Florida.
One can argue that the Jews deserved some sort of compensation for the actions of the Nazis. Personally, the Jews should have been given East Prussia. That seems like worthy enough compensation from the state that committed the war crimes.
It is not as if the victors simply decided after WWII ended that the Jews would get some compensation. The Zionist operations in Palestine date to some 60 years earlier. The political issues dividing Palestine dated to WWI the way the British and French planned to divvy up the Ottoman Empire.
The bare bones is that Britain made promises to the Arabs in exchange for their support against the Ottomans and did the same to the Jews later on. There are various theories as to why. In the end they agreed to divvy things up with the French in a manner agreeable to them both and this conflicted with promises made to the others.
The Holocaust created a soft spot which caused many countries to accept Israel, but it is completely incorrect to suggest that it was some random territory selected. The Jews had immigrated there in droves for quite some time and this is where the Zionists wanted a state to be. It is not as if the victors decided they should be awarded a state, rather the victors decided that they should be allowed to set up the state they wanted and basically were setting up on their own anyway.
Many blame the US for the establishment of Israel because a good portion of the economic funding came from Jews in America. The US government had nothing to do with it and to claim the US government set up Israel is complete nonsense. Although the United States immediately recognized Israel, it also strictly enforced the Neutrality Act which prohibited the sale or transfer of any military weapons to Israel. The 1948 War of Independence established the state of Israel. No official assistance was provided by the United States. For the first 17 years of its existence, Israel did not receive any military or economic aid from the United States government. The governmental aid came from various European countries. Some of these countries already had a hand in it before Israel was set up such as France and Britain. Others such as the USSR also had an interest in the region.
But this is what we did to Germany after WWI. Israel was promised to the Chosen. After WWI and WWII we took land from Germany. This land should be given back to the Germans. That land was not won by the country it was given to. The USA had no business in the war.
Well, that's quite an interesting alternate reality you have there. You should pick up a history book.
I also think you should be given a PUI....posting under the.....
Germany went into WWI and WWII to take terrotory and they loss both time. The USA bascailly kicked the germans and the japnese into total defeat. Even the British had to raly on borrowing US division after D adfy to mount a offensive in their poarts of the front.l; The US also supplied much of everything that the aliies used that assured the vostory. Churchills arsenal of democracy in the end is what really won the war.
Let's say we were at war with Canada and Mexico. It looked like they were going to surrender to the USA. Germans stepped in and said, don't surrender to the USA. If you promise us Florida after the war we'll bring the Germans in the war on your side. When you go to Canada to sign the Treaty of Vancouver with the USA you will force the Americans to sign over Florida to us.
Would the Americans hate the Germans? But this is what we did to Germany after WWI. Israel was promised to the Chosen. After WWI and WWII we took land from Germany. This land should be given back to the Germans. That land was not won by the country it was given to. The USA had no business in the war.
This post is either A) an example of what you get if you read Stormfront on a regular basis or B) proof that while it is OK for members of the same family to marry each other, they should never reproduce.
Let's say we were at war with Canada and Mexico. It looked like they were going to surrender to the USA. Germans stepped in and said, don't surrender to the USA. If you promise us Florida after the war we'll bring the Germans in the war on your side. When you go to Canada to sign the Treaty of Vancouver with the USA you will force the Americans to sign over Florida to us.
Would the Americans hate the Germans? But this is what we did to Germany after WWI. Israel was promised to the Chosen. After WWI and WWII we took land from Germany. This land should be given back to the Germans. That land was not won by the country it was given to. The USA had no business in the war.
How about.. "Let's say... this Thread is absurd and racist"
And "Let's say.. it is closed
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