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Old 11-18-2015, 11:50 AM
 
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Yeah I'm quickly learning that you pay for quiet haha

The quiet Honda 2000W one is about $1000 compared to some random brand 2000W one that isn't quiet is like $200. Hmmm
Most "inverter generators" are extremely quiet. Honda and Yamaha are easily the quietest, but even "loud" inverter generators are quiet because they can idle down when not running a heavy load.

I personally have a Ryobi inverter generator (sold by Home Depot), and when it's on eco mode it's no louder to my ears than a Honda. It's the inverter that does it- if you buy a non-inverter generator, it has to run at 3600rpm regardless of the load in order to generate the 60hz alternating current. The inverter generators can give 60hz even at idle.

Don't fall for the trap of the $200 non-inverter generators though, those things are so loud they can wake the dead. I got my Ryobi from craigslist for $300 and it's perfect.
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Old 11-18-2015, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Can anyone clarify why a lot of advice online says to never use extension cords on generators? I'm supposed to plug myvstuff directly into the generator somehow? Most household things have a short cord. Maybe I'm misunderstanding.
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Old 11-18-2015, 01:06 PM
 
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I found this article about it that describes the difference between the wires.
http://www.generatorgrader.com/exten...le-generators/

I think people like GenCords which plug into the 20-30 amp 4 prong cord that then splits into 3-4 120 volt outlets for household appliances like a small heater or TV ect. With that you only have one wire running from the Generator to the house but have 3-4 outlets.

Now that being said they seem kinda pricey I think you would be fine using a regular old extension cord just get one of the Heavy duty one that has a bigger AWG.

The reason I think they dont like extension cords is due to resistance in the wires while under use with long cord length. So with lots of resistance means heat which could spark a fire.
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Old 11-18-2015, 01:22 PM
 
Location: On the plateau, TN
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A standby generator is very convenient to have..... However, you have to run it every so often, plus the problem of storing cans of gasoline...

Do you heat with natural gas or heat pump ¿
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Old 11-18-2015, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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I found this article about it that describes the difference between the wires.
http://www.generatorgrader.com/exten...le-generators/

I think people like GenCords which plug into the 20-30 amp 4 prong cord that then splits into 3-4 120 volt outlets for household appliances like a small heater or TV ect. With that you only have one wire running from the Generator to the house but have 3-4 outlets.

Now that being said they seem kinda pricey I think you would be fine using a regular old extension cord just get one of the Heavy duty one that has a bigger AWG.

The reason I think they dont like extension cords is due to resistance in the wires while under use with long cord length. So with lots of resistance means heat which could spark a fire.
Thanks, that makes sense. So it sounds like the people talking are only talking about extension cords and not gen cords. I'll just get a gen cord if I go this route.

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A standby generator is very convenient to have..... However, you have to run it every so often, plus the problem of storing cans of gasoline...

Do you heat with natural gas or heat pump ¿
Natural gas.
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Old 11-18-2015, 02:09 PM
 
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Ok, I guess I've touched a nerve by wanting to keep my child warm. I'll rent a hotel next time. I was just asking a question and looking for suggestions.

Indoor furnace. They are portable, look like fireplace, produce NO fumes and are certified to be used inside - safely, unlike open flame heaters.

Eco-Friendly, Modern Biofuel Fireplaces For Sale | EcoSmart Fire
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Old 11-18-2015, 02:18 PM
 
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Best Portable Backup Heater? Propane? Kerosine? - Survivalist Forum
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Old 11-18-2015, 03:37 PM
 
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A standby generator is very convenient to have..... However, you have to run it every so often, plus the problem of storing cans of gasoline...

Do you heat with natural gas or heat pump ¿
Just to provide a counterpoint to this- my father passed along a generator that hadn't been used for 9 years and still had some of the old gas in it. It took some muscle to get it going (lots and lots of pull starts), but it ran fine after the first 20 mins or so.

Gas cans are annoying if you don't have a shed or a garage to keep them it; I am in agreement on that one.
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Old 11-18-2015, 04:57 PM
 
Location: WMHT
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A generator that runs off natural gas and powers most of your circuits would be ideal, but not when you are renting.

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The reason I think they dont like extension cords is due to resistance in the wires while under use with long cord length. So with lots of resistance means heat which could spark a fire.
The other issue with extension cords is getting them from outside the house to inside -- again, closing a door or window on a cord can lead to a fire, thus the strong suggestion of using a PIB.

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Indoor furnace. They are portable, look like fireplace, produce NO fumes and are certified to be used inside - safely, unlike open flame heaters. Eco-Friendly, Modern Biofuel Fireplaces For Sale | EcoSmart Fire
Ethanol burners are expensive and produce minimal heat, but on the plus side, they are usually legal in OP's home state of California, unlike ventless gas heaters.
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Old 11-18-2015, 04:57 PM
 
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I am sure to be yelled at BUT, figure the circuits you need ex furnace, lights in family room, internet whatever. count the max wattage and buy an appropriate generator. You can then double plug and back feed into your system. Make sure you turn off your main and unwanted circuits. I would not suggest this for energy hogs such as ac, refrig.
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