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Old 02-10-2008, 09:47 PM
 
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Thanks for the insight...your're exactly the kind of builder I'm trying to avoid.
lol What kind? the kind who is disrespectful of your wishes, or the kind who won't work for free?

Fact is, if you prefer, you can take over that part of the contract and do it all yourself. It could save you lots, or cost you huge in mistakes that a builder normally would be responsible for, and would eat the cost of his own mistakes. Thats why there's a markup. You're paying for a skilled coordinated service, and often its the economical choice because the builder gets wholesale prices.

You also have the option to subcontract out a job if a builder is beligerent with you. When they act like this at this stage of the game, its a bad sign of future quality and increases the chance you'll be in small claims court with them down the road. Thats not cost effective for anyone.

Anderson windows, just like all companies who achieve brand recognition, try to capture the low end of the market by slapping their label on a low grade window to cash in on reputation. They get by for a long while in stores like home depot hocking that garbage. Do you really believe, when you buy the 25k mercedes, that its the same mercedes of precision engineering? Nike was selling $100 sneakers long after the quality dropped out- how many knew the difference?

You want value, you want quality, you're willing to pay some more. The builder up there is wrong-- good windows CAN pay for themselves through their long term energy savings, and also as a selling point with a realtor. Its the presentation to the buyer that says- we paid attention to quality. Problem is if you went on the cheap anywhere else thats obvious, you've negated that selling point. I know because I'm a buyer.

The poster that mentioned U values is right. dept of energy website regarding performance- http://www.eere.energy.gov/consumer/.../mytopic=13320 .
Brand names- consumer reports usually does a good job of relaying customer satisfaction, but its limited in time trials. The model you buy today wont neccessarily perform the same way in 10 yrs.

Measure apples to apples, the specs are available from all manufacturers. Warranties convey.

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Old 02-12-2008, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Johns Creek, GA
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The builder up there is wrong-- good windows CAN pay for themselves through their long term energy savings...
My statement wasn't wrong- it was based on the average number of yrs a buyer stays in one residence. But yes, there are "long term" advantages.
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Old 08-14-2010, 07:01 PM
 
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if you are staying in a house for the long haul anderson windows are by far the best choice. do some real research. anderson loe4 windows have two layers of low e on the 2nd panel. they have a patented easy clean exterior that is activated by sunlight not a chemical that you have to put on them every year. they are made from fiberx which is about as green as you can get if that is what you want. they have cardinal glass and a transferrable warranty.
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Old 08-14-2010, 07:05 PM
 
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silverline is not and anderson product it is just a company that anderson bought out. silverline is just a window for production builders that meet there price point with a uv rating of .32 that they can get the energy star rating for. if you are wanting a production house silverline, jeld wen, mw, mgm , praire it doesnt really make a difference. they all have about the same warranty and the same uv and r ratings if they are low e instead of insulated glass.
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Old 08-14-2010, 07:08 PM
 
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the problem with alot of houses and builders today is that builders now many of the buyers do not care what the quality is or what the material is they want to now how much house can they get for the amount of money the bank said they could have.
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Old 08-16-2010, 01:18 AM
 
Location: Northwest Indiana
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Be thankful that you're getting Jeldwen windows- here in Atlanta, even the $700k tract homes get Silverline vinyl windows.
Yikes, really?? Silverline vinyl windows in 700k houses?

Granted there isn't anything "wrong" with a silverline window, but that is a very low end window for a 700k house. I wouldn't want that in a house that costs half that much, nor would I have to here.

It must be a regional thing, because you would get an Anderson or Pella in a $300 to $500k new house here (Indiana outside Chicago).
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