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Old 10-09-2018, 07:36 PM
 
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Ok, I need some advice. I've got water seepage, and ruined flooring.

I've got an exterior ground level door. It is actually the primary door we use for exit/entry. It is an inch or two above ground level / driveway level. It has an extension of the house pad as an entry base. Foundation is poured concrete, circa 1974, location MA. Probably has some modest reinforcement inside. I don't know how to judge, one way or the other.

So, water has been seeping under the door sill, and has rotted the manufactured flooring inside. A few years back I put some filler under the door sill, at the exterior, to prevent moisture penetration. Looks like it didn't work.

Do I need to remove the door to figure out what the heck is going on, and then to fix it? Any recommendations on how to fix?
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Old 10-09-2018, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Ok, I need some advice. I've got water seepage, and ruined flooring.

I've got an exterior ground level door. It is actually the primary door we use for exit/entry. It is an inch or two above ground level / driveway level. It has an extension of the house pad as an entry base. Foundation is poured concrete, circa 1974, location MA. Probably has some modest reinforcement inside. I don't know how to judge, one way or the other.

So, water has been seeping under the door sill, and has rotted the manufactured flooring inside. A few years back I put some filler under the door sill, at the exterior, to prevent moisture penetration. Looks like it didn't work.

Do I need to remove the door to figure out what the heck is going on, and then to fix it? Any recommendations on how to fix?
I would think you need to redirect the water that is flowing toward the door... on the outside.
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Old 10-10-2018, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Florida
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First, find a way to redirect water outside from coming inside. Then pull the door and replace the rot. Then fix your floor.
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Old 10-10-2018, 07:32 PM
 
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I would think you need to redirect the water that is flowing toward the door... on the outside.
Thanks. Good thought - it would require me building an entryway roof. No other way to do that without completely re-landscaping, tearing out the driveway and lowering the grade outside the door.

An entryway roof is something that might happen. Next year at best. So, meanwhile, I guess I have to remove the door and see how bad the damage is.
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Old 10-10-2018, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Florida
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French drain?
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Old 10-10-2018, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Johns Creek, GA
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Thanks. Good thought - it would require me building an entryway roof. No other way to do that without completely re-landscaping, tearing out the driveway and lowering the grade outside the door.

An entryway roof is something that might happen. Next year at best. So, meanwhile, I guess I have to remove the door and see how bad the damage is.


You're really over-thinking this.

This type of leak is usually due to driving rain and/or splashing. You could considerably reduce the amount of water that gets to the door with an awning. Another item that can help is a drip edge at the bottom edge of the door. These, along a correctly adjusted threshold, an undamaged sweep, and correctly installed weatherstripping will certainly keep water out.

Once you establish a cover that will reduce the induction of water- you can start doing repairs.
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Old 10-11-2018, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Kansas City North
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We had a similar problem and solved it with a storm door.
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Old 10-11-2018, 07:00 AM
 
Location: N. Raleigh
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You're really over-thinking this.

This type of leak is usually due to driving rain and/or splashing. You could considerably reduce the amount of water that gets to the door with an awning. Another item that can help is a drip edge at the bottom edge of the door. These, along a correctly adjusted threshold, an undamaged sweep, and correctly installed weatherstripping will certainly keep water out.

Once you establish a cover that will reduce the induction of water- you can start doing repairs.
This is great advice!

It's very easy to panic or over think small issues when the small issue creates huge damage (or at least in ones mind).
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Old 10-11-2018, 07:17 AM
 
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A relative put an awning over her entry door. Problem solved.
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Old 10-11-2018, 11:06 AM
 
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Exterior doors without a roof or covering above them allowing direct rain driving into them are always a problem. Best solution is to put a roof over it. Another thing is the outside porch or concrete should always be lower than the inside floor level. If they are the same level, water is naturally going to try to seep under and around the door. There are now doors with "no rot" jambs and brick mold made out of composite material that do not deteriorate giving water ways to seep in around the sill. A storm door can usually solves a lot of problems where driving rain hits a door.
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