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View Poll Results: Is Memorial City Mall and areas around it in Southwest Houston?
Yes 5 15.63%
No 27 84.38%
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Old 12-16-2010, 08:14 AM
 
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Old 12-16-2010, 08:57 AM
 
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I usually agree with you, crone, but I think you're being a bit disingenuous.

You cite items from 50-60 years ago, and they ARE interesting and ARE relevant---but consider, River Oaks was once "Far West Houston". It's hardly that NOW. Things change over time.

I was going to post what you did---if you consider roughly the points of a compass, with IH 10 being the east-west axis and IH 45/288 being the north-south axis, then yes, "Southwest Houston" runs from IH 10 on the north to 288 on the East (pie shaped quadrant).

But in reality, these days, when someone refers to "Southwest Houston", they tend to use either Westheimer, Richmond, or the Westpark Tollway (take your pick, depends on who you talk with) as the divider on the north, and sometimes 288/sometimes S. Main as the divider on the east.

References change. When I was a little kid, I lived in "Far North Dallas", really in the "exurbs", on a bumpy two lane country road with bar ditches (I got in trouble playing in them when they had water in them...) called "Walnut Hill Lane". Nobody (nobody) would consider calling that "Far North Dallas" or even "North Dallas" now.

Most people in Houston think of Memorial City/City Centre/the Memorial neighborhoods as "West" (all the way to Highway 6, and on the other side of Highway 6 is "Katy", whether it's city limits of Katy or not), they think of anything along 290 as "Northwest" but only from 610 out (I don't know of anyone who considers The Heights to be "Northwest", although theoretically that neighborhood IS "northwest".).

Things (and references) change.

BTW, note that ALL of this is built around downtown Houston---which is far east of and a bit north of the geographic center of the city. As I understand it, the actual geographic center of the city is somewhere around the intersection of Westheimer and Beltway 8....to me, looking at a map, the "center" looks more like Westheimer/Hillcroft or Westheimer/Gessner, but it's still far from downtown.

In short, I really don't know ANYBODY (including native Houstonians my age, 54) who now considers the Memorial City area "Southwest Houston".


(For our next discussion, even though we've done it to death, I nominate, "proper way to pronounce "San Felipe").
You must be on a different level from the rest of the conversation.
You must surely be talking about the metropolitan area.

The geographic center is still downtown.



and if the center is at Westheimer and Gessmer, wouldn't that make Memorial north east???

Its silly things like this that make people confused.
The areas Crone described have not changed. River Oaks used to be on the far western boundary, but guest what? it was also SW and is still southwest.

That is why using things like east and west to describe a location is silly.
memorial was southwest and is still SW.
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Old 12-16-2010, 09:03 AM
 
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Why is this still being discussed... Crone has spoken!
Ha ha. true.

Funny thing is they are just going by what they think. or what some new comers who are always lost tell them.
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Old 12-16-2010, 09:30 AM
 
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Ha ha. true.

Funny thing is they are just going by what they think. or what some new comers who are always lost tell them.
No; this is what NATIVE Houstonians tell us. You're the newcomer coming in trying to tell people how Houston work. I'm not a native, but I'd rather listen to people who lived here much longer than you. Crone is the first and only Houstonian I've ever heard say Katy RD and down is the southwest.

If you go out on the streets and ask people where is the southwest; very few will tell you Katy.
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Old 12-16-2010, 10:01 AM
 
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This thread is funny since Southwest Houston can be subjective based on peoples' different perspectives!
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Old 12-16-2010, 10:12 AM
 
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Just what I thought. Everything is a matter of perspective and everything is relative. Even this economy.
Each time we enter a restaurant, I wonder where is the recession?
If I lived in Conroe, my take on north Houston will be different.
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Old 12-16-2010, 10:17 AM
 
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I agree with that.
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Old 12-16-2010, 10:18 AM
 
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Trying to fugure out what composes of southwest Houston is just like people trying to figure out does the South includes DFW and Houston.
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Old 12-16-2010, 11:51 AM
 
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No; this is what NATIVE Houstonians tell us. You're the newcomer coming in trying to tell people how Houston work. I'm not a native, but I'd rather listen to people who lived here much longer than you. Crone is the first and only Houstonian I've ever heard say Katy RD and down is the southwest.

If you go out on the streets and ask people where is the southwest; very few will tell you Katy.
I bet I have been in Houston longer than you

I have been out on the streets and I did live between westheimer and I10 (for 6 years) it was SW then, it is SW now

Crone has been here 65 years, by your logic he should be the one you should be listening to.
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Old 12-16-2010, 11:55 AM
 
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I bet I have been in Houston longer than you

I have been out on the streets and I did live between westheimer and I10 (for 6 years) it was SW then, it is SW now

Crone has been here 65 years, by your logic he should be the one you should be listening to.
I've been coming to Houston and spent many summers here (10+ years). I have too much family here and some reside in the Katy area and Alief. None of them call Katy southwest.
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