Houston: Land Boundary

[HtownLove]

Originally Posted by DANNYY

As for sidewalks and bike trails and such, the city is going through some massive projects right now as we speak, especially in the Inner Loop. Project Brays is just one example of such.
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I didn't realize how extensive the Bike trails are in Houston. The Brays Bayou trail runs from Macgregor Park near I45 south of UH and runs all the way west past past Gessner, Also there are the trails at Terry Hershey Park. The Columbia Tap Trail runs from South Macgregor all the way to Mid Town, There are also trails running west from Downtown to the Heights, Trails around Buffalo Bayou, Trails around Greens Bayou, trails running north of Downtown , Trails near the bayou on TC Jester. And they are actual trails not a marked off bike lane section on the street like in San Antonio.

the on street bike lanes brings up the total mile route to over 425m covering 500 sq miles of the city.
Houston Bikeway Program

Houston offers a 345-mile interconnected bikeway network spanning across 500 square miles of the city. The network includes bike lanes, bike routes, shared lanes and bayou trails, rails to trails, and other urban multi-use paths. This network does not include 80 miles of hike and bike and nature trails found in City of Houston parks.

[Pine to Vine]

Originally Posted by DANNYY

I say give it 20 years or so, and its going to be looking really nice there on out.

I don't want to wait that long.

[Spade]

Originally Posted by DANNYY

Eh the entire Sunbelt is like that in general with the exception of Miami. Even Los Angeles has to get to work on the transit details. For Houston, it's main priority is to make its Inner Loop better and that's what it's aiming on doing with transit oriented development that will spur off from that.

Connecting Texas Medical Center to Downtown was genius on their part, it really set the sails for Midtown to prosper. I also hope they get transit in place as they continue to infill. As for sidewalks and bike trails and such, the city is going through some massive projects right now as we speak, especially in the Inner Loop. Project Brays is just one example of such.

I say give it 20 years or so, and its going to be looking really nice there on out.

Nah. Miami is like that too. There mass transit system is awful and just as bad as Houston's. Miami escapes the wrath of the urbanists because they like Miami's location and atmosphere. It is also dense. But when you actually live and move around the area, you will find that it is no different than the other Sunbelt cities. It's just very dense....and trendy. But I do love this thread.

[Spade]

So Houston with that population in 226.6 sq. miles would have the density of 5445 ppsm. I honestly wouldn't mind Houston giving up some land honestly. I don't believe any city should have over 400-500 sq miles of land. I understand why they do and it's smart though. If Chicago, NY, and Philadelphia could do it, they would.

But the 5445 ppsm would be equal to current day St. Louis, Orange County, and St. Paul Minnesota. Could and should be better. But pretty good density for a sunbelt city.

[HtownLove]

Originally Posted by Spade

. It is also dense. But when you actually live and move around the area, you will find that it is no different than the other Sunbelt cities.

Using city data like Danny did:
Miami's densest zips:

33128
Estimated zip code population in 2009: 8,313
Land area: 0.4 sq. mi.
Population density: 18885 people per square mile

33125
Estimated zip code population in 2009: 57,699
Land area: 3.6 sq. mi.
Population density: 15910 people per square mile

33127
Estimated zip code population in 2009: 33,001
Land area: 3.2 sq. mi.
Population density: 10164 people per square mile

33129
Estimated zip code population in 2009: 13,178
Land area: 1.2 sq. mi.
Population density: 10609 people per square mile


33130
Estimated zip code population in 2009: 24,388
Land area: 1.1 sq. mi.
Population density: 23043 people per square mile

33131
Estimated zip code population in 2009: 5,607
Land area: 0.4 sq. mi.
Population density: 13328 people per square mile

33135
Estimated zip code population in 2009: 42,400
Land area: 2.1 sq. mi.
Population density: 19875 people per square mile

totals:
12 sq miles
184,586 people
density 15k ppsm
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Houston's Densest:

77081
Estimated zip code population in 2009: 56,232
Land area: 3.2 sq. mi.
Population density: 17749 people per square mile


77036
Estimated zip code population in 2009: 86,170
Land area: 7.6 sq. mi.
Population density: 11343 people per square mile

77006
Land area: 2.2 sq. mi.
Population density: 11258 people per square mile
Estimated zip code population in 2009: 25,241

77046
Estimated zip code population in 2009: 533
Land area: 0.0 sq. mi.
Population density: 37260 people per square mile

Totals:
13 sq miles
168, 176 people
density: 13k ppsm


Not so different

[timtemtym]

Originally Posted by Spade

So Houston with that population in 226.6 sq. miles would have the density of 5445 ppsm. I honestly wouldn't mind Houston giving up some land honestly. I don't believe any city should have over 400-500 sq miles of land. I understand why they do and it's smart though. If Chicago, NY, and Philadelphia could do it, they would.

But the 5445 ppsm would be equal to current day St. Louis, Orange County, and St. Paul Minnesota. Could and should be better. But pretty good density for a sunbelt city.

Funny you mention Orange County by comparison. Sometimes when I miss Houston (home), I drive around North OC and it feels like SW Houston (Garden Grove, Westminster, Fountain Valley, etc...). The flat terrain, wide boulevards with endless strip centers, Asian/Hispanic mix, it's homey to me...