03-28-2011, 11:44 AM
Location: ITL (Houston)
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They may be brand name teams, but this year's versions of Kentucky and UConn are nowhere close in terms of talent to previous teams.
I would have liked to see at least one #1 seed in the Final Four.
I went to the Final Four 3 years ago in San Antonio, which had all 4 #1 seeds and the atmosphere there was great.
Hopefully, this year will be the same but I doubt it will.
I'll actually be rooting for VCU because I have a cousin that graduated from there and another cousin currently going there.
The only thing that not having four #1 seeds hurt are businesses, because they assume not as many people will show up. For atmosphere, I don't think you can get a better one with this year's storyline, especially if VCU wins on Saturday. The teams may not be as talented (UConn and Kentucky), but they are still UConn and Kentucky basketball. They will draw plenty of fans.
03-29-2011, 02:31 PM
Location: Katy,TX.
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The only thing that not having four #1 seeds hurt are businesses, because they assume not as many people will show up. For atmosphere, I don't think you can get a better one with this year's storyline, especially if VCU wins on Saturday. The teams may not be as talented (UConn and Kentucky), but they are still UConn and Kentucky basketball. They will draw plenty of fans.
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03-29-2011, 03:28 PM
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They are dropping because the bigger schools are out and those people are selling them off. Doesn't mean the stadium won't still be sold out and the ratings will be down.
03-29-2011, 07:06 PM
Location: Katy,TX.
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They are dropping because the bigger schools are out and those people are selling them off. Doesn't mean the stadium won't still be sold out and the ratings will be down.
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Wade Paulson said, "I am going to pay face value."
For the cheap seats, that's $180 for both semifinal games and the championship game. Why did Paulson get such a great deal?
He said, "I have friends that had friends that are not going because of there are not good teams playing. So I got tickets because of that."
While face value seats are gone, the demand for this year's Final Four tournament has been low, so ticket brokers are offering what they say are pretty good deals on the three games at Reliant Stadium. This package is $250. It breaks down to $83 a game, plus admission to Bracket Town.
just saying
These are the weakest teams to make the final four in years.
Butler plays a weak conference and had the officals hand them two games in the tournament,
Uconn finished the regular season in 9th place(Big East),
Kentucky finished 3rd(SEC) in regular season and
VCU finished 4th. in the Colonial conf. regular season.
Most basketball purest don't see why would a team play an entire regular season, then have to play a post season conference tournament just to get auto bid to the NCAA tourn., it only renders the reg. season meaningless. No matter who wins this year, I still can't bring myself to say "That's the best team in 2011".
lol, Uconn and VCU would be playing in the NIT if it wasn't for a post season conference tournament.
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03-29-2011, 08:38 PM
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^^Yep. This is why I never jumped on the bandwagon on college football needing a playoff. This tournament is basically which ever team is playing the hottest will move on. It defeats the purpose of the regular season for college basketball. NBA is different because they play a 7 game series in the playoffs following the regular season. In college football, the regular season is the playoff or the tournament. You lose once and you're on thin ice. You lose twice and you're done.
I hate to say it and people will will scoff at this. But the BCS gets it right most of the time compared to the NCAA tournament. No system is perfect. But I didn't feel that Duke was the best team last year and I don't feel either of these teams are the best team this year. I don't care how VCU and UCONN finish this season. They shouldn't have been in the tournament to begin with. Especially VCU. They didn't even win their conference in the regular season nor the bogus conference tournament.
03-29-2011, 09:58 PM
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These are the weakest teams to make the final four in years. Butler plays a weak conference and had the officals hand them two games in the tournament, Uconn finished the regular season in 9th place(Big East), Kentucky finished 3rd(SEC) in regular season and VCU finished 4th. in the Colonial conf. regular season.
Most basketball purest don't see why would a team play an entire regular season, then have to play a post season conference tournament just to get auto bid to the NCAA tourn., it only renders the reg. season meaningless. No matter who wins this year, I still can't bring myself to say "That's the best team in 2011".
lol, Uconn and VCU would be playing in the NIT if it wasn't for a post season conference tournament.
It's not always the case that the teams with the best regular seasons go on to win the championship. Two very recent examples, Green Bay won the Super Bowl as a 6th seed, though they should of been a 5th because of the NFC West, but they won the Super Bowl because they were the hottest team. Same with the San Francisco Giants in the World Series.
This year's tournament is certainly out of the ordinary compared to year's past, because of no #1 and #2 seeds. But I think it makes for an interesting Final Four like no other, and that's not a bad thing. Sometimes the tourney does what its suppose to do, and let the #1 seeds win it all like last year and the case of San Antonio a few years. But this is the one sports event where fans cheer for the Cinderella to succeed, so I and many other fans are excited to see how it concludes.
If it were up to me, the best and most fair way to reward the best team is to have a home and away round robin schedule, and the team with the best record or most points, is champion. I know people don't like soccer, but the Europeans have it right for formatting the regular season. 20 teams, 38 games, and accumulate points throughout the season. This way every game counts from beginning to end, and were rewarding the most consistent team in the end. Obviously are pro sports have 32 teams, and the NCAA has over 300 teams, so it wouldn't work here, but we wouldn't be complaining about whose the best team every year in sports.
But back to my point, sure this years Final Four teams might be bad for Houston tourism, but great teams don't exactly create memorable experiences for all. See the Super Bowl Fiasco in North Texas, great teams, but terrible planning and execution. So as long as the event planners in Houston get it done right, and let the games play out for themselves, this city will see more sporting events here and perhaps better teams next time around.
Anyways, sorry for the long post.
03-30-2011, 12:31 AM
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These are the weakest teams to make the final four in years. Butler plays a weak conference and had the officals hand them two games in the tournament, Uconn finished the regular season in 9th place(Big East), Kentucky finished 3rd(SEC) in regular season and VCU finished 4th. in the Colonial conf. regular season.
Most basketball purest don't see why would a team play an entire regular season, then have to play a post season conference tournament just to get auto bid to the NCAA tourn., it only renders the reg. season meaningless.
What a team does during the regular season is the journey to what they will be by March, which sometimes looks very different. Especially for a young team, the peak may be by the time conference tournaments comes around, and that peak matters. This will be a good tournament.
Plus, the NCAA selection committee faced more criticism than usual this year because of their seedings. Regardless of that being called into question, highly-seeded teams that had an "easy" route to the Final Four didn't make it. Lower seeds that had a very difficult path, did. That kind of drama is what captures the interest of fans with a passion for college basketball.
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03-30-2011, 07:24 AM
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^^Yep. This is why I never jumped on the bandwagon on college football needing a playoff. This tournament is basically which ever team is playing the hottest will move on. It defeats the purpose of the regular season for college basketball. NBA is different because they play a 7 game series in the playoffs following the regular season. In college football, the regular season is the playoff or the tournament. You lose once and you're on thin ice. You lose twice and you're done.
I hate to say it and people will will scoff at this. But the BCS gets it right most of the time compared to the NCAA tournament. No system is perfect. But I didn't feel that Duke was the best team last year and I don't feel either of these teams are the best team this year. I don't care how VCU and UCONN finish this season. They shouldn't have been in the tournament to begin with. Especially VCU. They didn't even win their conference in the regular season nor the bogus conference tournament.
I agree about the BCS.
I'm not a BCS cheerleader by any means, but more times than not they do get it right.
There has not been a team crowned national champion by the BCS that did not deserve to win it for the most part.
You may have had a Boise State or TCU type team that got left out some years, but that seems to be the exception.
Imagine having a playoff in Division I (FBS) football and having a team like North Texas making it to the national championship game.
While it might make for a great story, it would not be much of a game to watch.
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People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)