05-24-2011, 08:57 AM
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ethanw
Well agree to disagree.
What helps with retentions is money and nothing else.
Experience in the industry doesn't necessarily translate? Another old school gem.
Experience is experience mate but we all dig a hole the same way no matter what. Of course each major may have their own variation and competitive edge but the basics are the same
Yeah my company got a PMO process called something else, and yeah my company got and EHS process called something else. Is not what is unique about the process but how easy can you retain and disseminate that knowledge. Is called knowledge management and if you have a good framework in place I can pick up any good engineer from the street, old or young, and bring them up to speed in no time. Is a proven fact in my company.
Lastly, for folks who think about staying with a company for more than 10 years, weak up mates. Is not happening anymore . Focus and be loyal to your career and just that will take you long way. We're just disposable numbers.
You've done an excellent job of reiterating why many of them don't go for 'experienced hires'. You call it 'old school' thinking, but these companies have been on top for over 100 years using these old school tactics. Guess we'll see if they're right or not...
05-24-2011, 09:13 AM
Location: Houston, TX
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ethanw
Well agree to disagree.
What helps with retentions is money and nothing else.
Employee should devote time to their OWN careers which are marketable across the industry and not just ONE company. That's old school thinking and no wonder folks left out in the street don't have any idea where to start getting a job.All they know is 25 years with one company, called brainwashing.
Experience in the industry doesn't necessarily translate? Another old school gem. Experience is experience mate but we all dig a hole the same way no matter what. Of course each major may have their own variation and competitive edge but the basics are the same
Yeah my company got a PMO process called something else, and yeah my company got and EHS process called something else. Is not what is unique about the process but how easy can you retain and disseminate that knowledge. Is called knowledge management and if you have a good framework in place I can pick up any good engineer from the street, old or young, and bring them up to speed in no time. Is a proven fact in my company.
Lastly, for folks who think about staying with a company for more than 10 years, weak up mates. Is not happening anymore. Focus and be loyal to your career and just that will take you long way. We're just disposable numbers.
Dispensing some truth here...
I work for the company called Oildog.
05-24-2011, 09:21 AM
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Hey guys, this is all nice to read but I need some good advice here.
I intend on starting my masters in Petroleum at Texas A&M this fall, but I think I might get job with halliburton or baker hughes really soon.
Would a year of field engineering experience make a difference to the College recruiters for the supermajors ? I don't want to waste my time on unless experience that won't translate.
05-24-2011, 09:56 AM
Location: Charleston Sc and Western NC
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LizzySWW
That's strange, most people I know in this industry are still with the same big companies for over over ten years.
It may tough job market, but I wouldn't go as far to say:
"we're disposable"
"wake up mates"
"staying with a company over 10 yrs isn't happening anymore"
"being a loyal employee won't take you a long way"
Lots of people in Houston are doing pretty good in your field.
Yes, but staying on with a major that long gets you on track for VP or senior trader. Who would want that?
05-24-2011, 10:00 AM
Location: Houston, TX
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EasilyAmused
Yes, but staying on with a major that long gets you on track for VP or senior trader. Who would want that?
You do much better bouncing around and not building a reputation,increasing your bonus', and building up vacation time.
I would love to have been able to get into the trading side. But those folks seem to be chosen.
As for the OP, getting experience never hurts. A chem E degree should get you in somewhere on the drilling side. If you want to get Petroleum E as well go ahead. Maybe you should send a note to your congressman about drilling in the gulf...
What about North Dakota...
05-24-2011, 12:28 PM
Location: Sugar Land
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Well again, that's old school and it does take time to change. Nothing happens overnight but we now live in a commoditized and disposable world. I lost count of how many times we sent our jobs oversees and blindly let fantastic engineers go. The world is changing mate, better wake up and smell the new oil
I've been alternating between SLB and HAL every 5 years or so and they don't mind taking me back for more money and quicker promotions. You know why? Is called being marketable and competitive. No need to wait in line for the VP track, not that I ever aspire for that role. I am perfectly happy with my career, paycheck and work-life balance.
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LizzySWW
That's strange, most people I know in this industry are still with the same big companies for over over ten years.
It may tough job market, but I wouldn't go as far to say:
"we're disposable"
"wake up mates"
"staying with a company over 10 yrs isn't happening anymore"
"being a loyal employee won't take you a long way"
Lots of people in Houston are doing pretty good in your field.
05-24-2011, 12:50 PM
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Talking about timing.
"Petroleum engineering majors make about $120,000 a year, compared with $29,000 annually for counseling psychology majors, researchers found. Math and computer science majors earn $98,000 in salary while early childhood education majors get paid about $36,000"
Study tells students what their major is worth - Business - Personal finance - msnbc.com
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Raging-Hetero
Hey guys, this is all nice to read but I need some good advice here.
I intend on starting my masters in Petroleum at Texas A&M this fall, but I think I might get job with halliburton or baker hughes really soon.
Would a year of field engineering experience make a difference to the College recruiters for the supermajors ? I don't want to waste my time on unless experience that won't translate.
05-24-2011, 12:56 PM
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Dirty work pays the bills!
05-24-2011, 01:22 PM
Location: Where Dance Music comes first
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Oildog
I would love to have been able to get into the trading side. But those folks seem to be chosen.A chem E degree should get you in somewhere on the drilling side . If you want to get Petroleum E as well go ahead. Maybe you should send a note to your congressman about drilling in the gulf...
This is good to hear.
Just for the record, I'm looking for a job with a rotational work schedule ( 7-7, 14-14, 28-28 ). I just assumed the oil and gas industry would be the only place to land a job of that sort. It doesn't necessarily have to be an upstream job. I'll gladly accept a rotational process engineering position on an offshore production platform if I find any. Unfortunately, Servicing companies don't have offshore production platforms.
Oh well, let's see what Baker Hughes has to say. I applied for a fieid position last night and I'm already scheduled for a phone interview on thursday. I'll take that as a good sign.
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People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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