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Old 02-19-2021, 04:36 PM
 
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Not an excuse but is it reasonable to expect Texas to be able to handle whatever temps North Dakota can handle? Is North Dakota prepared to handle whatever temps Texas can handle? The 1995 Chicago heat wave is one of the worst climate disasters in US history yet the temps were lower than what states like Texas, Arizona, and others see every year.
When comparing disasters.... realize that the Chicago Heat-wave .... did effect a much larger area also in the Midwest. Was NOT the failure of INFRASTRUCTURE. A KEY difference. FEMA or Washington AID was not called.... it was not that kind of Disaster.... but by lives lost yes.

The over 500 deaths in Chicago from the heat/humidity/stagnant air .... was by far in the city's poorest neighborhoods even worst then with a large portion WITHOUT AIR or could not afford to turn it on in their minds.... Black and elderly were the bulk sadly of the deaths. Fear of crime in their hoods has many fear opening up windows even.... links claimed if you look it all up and what occurred and resulting implementations of precautions for any future event. Another major heat wave was again in 1999 and 2012. heat waves in 1911, 1916, 1934, and 1936 were of comparable (or greater) intensity. People back in earlier decades slept in Parks and along the lakefront even.... That did not quite happen in 1995 in hoods of then. IT ALSO WAS ANOTHER ERA though for me.... the 90s may as well be yesterday as I am not young.

The city had cooling centers even then.... but did fail to fully implement it soon enough and quickly in 1995. There were some power failures.... but the grid held of course and most kept power and water remained, though periods of low-pressure due to so many water-hydrants opened in the city at one time. Some streets gain buckling therefore damage from intense heat.

My response was : Because this was not declared a National Disaster and FEMA was not called in. AGAIN IT WAS NOT A INFRASTRUCTURE FAILURE TO BLAME. It was slow-reactions to a degree where the city even had things like cooling centers etc. Not fully opened quickly as they will be if it was today or after 1995 procedures. Predictions and more poorer folk having even Air is different today also. All of course have heat as a must for winters.

This was NOT a event that -- grocery stores ran out of food and trucks could not make deliveries etc. Homes were not really damaged from the heat like busted water pipes and just what lost heat in frigid temps can do vs excess heat and humidity. The Heat-Island effect made it worst for Chicago and also Milwaukee to St Louis had it.

There was a PROACTIVE approach after that and many of those HATE COSTLY PLANS and regulations added or a plan of activation much quicker to hold back damage to especially lives lost.
In Texas we have one of the FASTEST BOOMING REGIONS OF THE NATION. It is for the cheaper and warmer in general. Added cost for precautions are never favored till too late.... then most want the FEDS and rest of the Country needing to help pay. Irony is how Texas rather do it all alone till events have it need Washington. It is evil till .....

So much was demonized when California needed it.... now Texas is also a state to finger-point now sadly. It reasons as a boom-state.... even at the expense of the North and West for Corporate relocation. Being Prone to unfortunate events will only grow. Hopefully a more ONE NATION thinking over.... a we can do it on our own Thank You. Will also increase self-improving of its own issues as every region has. Not that the rest of us would not want a Texas that can do it all on its own for itself.

Just why so many booming regions have it worst anymore..... causes a bit of a -- here we go again with needing to dig-them out figuratively again.... Hopefully, when the North does need FEMA and Disaster declarations.... Texas legislatures do not want to vote NO.


TITLE: Ted Cruz Demands Federal Money For Texas Floods After Blocking Hurricane Sandy Relief.

https://www.politicususa.com/2015/05...dy-relief.html

As ONE NATION.... this political double-standard seems to be a Cruz specialty..... Hurricane Sandy effected NYC and NJ and Texas legislatures DID NOT WANT TO HELP THE NORTH .... then DEMANDED for TEXAS.
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Old 02-19-2021, 06:02 PM
 
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The city had cooling centers even then.... but did fail to fully implement it soon enough and quickly in 1995. There were some power failures.... but the grid held of course and most kept power and water remained, though periods of low-pressure due to so many water-hydrants opened in the city at one time. Some streets gain buckling therefore damage from intense heat.

My response was : Because this was not declared a National Disaster and FEMA was not called in. AGAIN IT WAS NOT A INFRASTRUCTURE FAILURE TO BLAME. It was slow-reactions to a degree where the city even had things like cooling centers etc. Not fully opened quickly as they will be if it was today or after 1995 procedures. Predictions and more poorer folk having even Air is different today also. All of course have heat as a must for winters.

Lack of policing infrastructure to keep crime rates in check, inadequate AC infrastructure in homes, and especially failing to prepare with the cooling resources they had sounds a lot like failing to winterize... Just about every disaster has an huge element of human failure.



My point was that it may not be reasonable to expect an area to be as prepared for an event that strikes once every decade as is an area that deals with it a half dozen times a year. I wasn't talking particularly about electricity.
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Old 02-19-2021, 09:52 PM
 
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Anybody see that photo of the Texarkana street? The Arkansas side was cleared. Our side was covered in snow.

We know better. Why is it so hard to do better?
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Old 02-19-2021, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Anybody see that photo of the Texarkana street? The Arkansas side was cleared. Our side was covered in snow.

We know better. Why is it so hard to do better?
I guess the snow is perceived to be more unique in Texas, so the locals didn't want to disturb this natural phenomenon
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Old 02-19-2021, 10:33 PM
 
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Anybody see that photo of the Texarkana street? The Arkansas side was cleared. Our side was covered in snow.

We know better. Why is it so hard to do better?
Texas doesn't receive snow dude, the whole state is technically on top of a natural spring that keeps temperatures over 40 degrees maximum.
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Old 02-20-2021, 04:26 AM
 
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Well the good thing for the liberals, they always can blame conservatives.
Conservatives always blame liberals for the bad things in California, Detroit, etc. which are run by liberals.

Who runs Texas? liberals or conservatives?
Are you afraid to criticize them?
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Old 02-20-2021, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Conservatives always blame liberals for the bad things in California, Detroit, etc. which are run by liberals.

Who runs Texas? liberals or conservatives?
Are you afraid to criticize them?
I do criticize conservatives if there's a reason. I don't want to repeat same thing, you are kind of late here. But we definitely need things to be improved in the energy sector.
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Old 02-20-2021, 07:35 AM
 
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Anybody see that photo of the Texarkana street? The Arkansas side was cleared. Our side was covered in snow.

We know better. Why is it so hard to do better?

Arkansas highway department has snow plows?
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Old 02-21-2021, 04:48 AM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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Track power outages :

https://www.click2houston.com/weathe...-winter-storm/

What winter-storm damages do insurers cover?
https://outline.com/yGp5rf
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Old 02-21-2021, 08:22 AM
 
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Track power outages :

https://www.click2houston.com/weathe...-winter-storm/

What winter-storm damages do insurers cover?
https://outline.com/yGp5rf

These power outage trackers seem to work well when the weather is good and there are few outages...
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