The infamous Ashby highrise has been resurrected (Woodway, River Oaks: apartments, homes)

[Mr. Clutch]

This should be interesting. Didn't go so well last time, but mainly due to the oil bust. I'm sure the residents will still raise hell about it though.

https://headtopics.com/us/exclusive-...-site-26097928

[gwarnecke]

I used to live one street south of this site. I really hope the project goes ahead this time, if only because the residents of that neighborhood deserve it. Is there any group more insufferable than those who want to reap the benefits of close-in living but will raise a stink whenever they are faced with any of the associated inconveniences? (traffic, "strangers" parking on the street, etc)

[houston-nomad]

Originally Posted by gwarnecke

I used to live one street south of this site. I really hope the project goes ahead this time, if only because the residents of that neighborhood deserve it. Is there any group more insufferable than those who want to reap the benefits of close-in living but will raise a stink whenever they are faced with any of the associated inconveniences? (traffic, "strangers" parking on the street, etc)

I like this take... so true!

I adore that neighborhood so I genuinely feel the residents' worry over it changing, but adding a little density just makes sense.

[NTexas2010]

Originally Posted by gwarnecke

I used to live one street south of this site. I really hope the project goes ahead this time, if only because the residents of that neighborhood deserve it. Is there any group more insufferable than those who want to reap the benefits of close-in living but will raise a stink whenever they are faced with any of the associated inconveniences? (traffic, "strangers" parking on the street, etc)

I like this take and also to add a certain twist to the formula - applying the same logic to ex-urbs / soon to be suburbs. In my case, every resident who has moved to Fulshear within the last 5-7 years, specifically to MPCs like Cross Creek Ranch or Fulbrook (read: development). These people, who bought into a development, turn around and complain about any additional development/growth/population increase/traffic that occurs after they have moved in.

One specific example, a resident of CCR on a nextdoor group complained about the development of the Texas Heritage Parkway, a new north south connector between FM 1093 and I-10; this person lamented that "all this development is just paving over prairie land." To which another poster responded "Lady, you ARE the development."

[astrohip]

Originally Posted by gwarnecke

I used to live one street south of this site. I really hope the project goes ahead this time, if only because the residents of that neighborhood deserve it. Is there any group more insufferable than those who want to reap the benefits of close-in living but will raise a stink whenever they are faced with any of the associated inconveniences? (traffic, "strangers" parking on the street, etc)

Wow, I don't get this at all? They deserve it?!? It's not like these people are NIMBYs. They're in an area that's been developed for decades (unlike the CCR example above). And the issues they raised haven't changed.

I used to live in Southampton. Our concerns were primarily traffic related. It's on the corner of two roads, both of which are two lane, neither of which has a center turn lane or medians. Traffic will be a disaster on Bissonnet. Most of these newer inner-city high rise projects are on roads that can handle the traffic.

I moved about four years ago, to a high rise myself, just a couple miles away. But it's on the corner of two streets that are both four lane roads, with a median and turn lanes. Traffic is still no fun, but at least when someone wants to turn, it won't stop traffic for half a mile behind them.

[WRM20]

A 134 unit building isn't going to change traffic much at all. The 2019 daily traffic count from South Main to Shepherd on Bissonet was 15,000 vehicles. increasing that by 500(3.5%) isn't going to make much, if any difference.

[FreeVilley]

Originally Posted by WRM20

A 134 unit building isn't going to change traffic much at all. The 2019 daily traffic count from South Main to Shepherd on Bissonet was 15,000 vehicles. increasing that by 500(3.5%) isn't going to make much, if any difference.

Will there be retail on the ground floor?

[bu2]

Originally Posted by astrohip

Wow, I don't get this at all? They deserve it?!? It's not like these people are NIMBYs. They're in an area that's been developed for decades (unlike the CCR example above). And the issues they raised haven't changed.

I used to live in Southampton. Our concerns were primarily traffic related. It's on the corner of two roads, both of which are two lane, neither of which has a center turn lane or medians. Traffic will be a disaster on Bissonnet. Most of these newer inner-city high rise projects are on roads that can handle the traffic.

I moved about four years ago, to a high rise myself, just a couple miles away. But it's on the corner of two streets that are both four lane roads, with a median and turn lanes. Traffic is still no fun, but at least when someone wants to turn, it won't stop traffic for half a mile behind them.

There's not much difference between that one and the one built on the edge of Rice Village. Only difference-one is actually in Rice Village and it is near less expensive homes than the one on Ashby. The claims they fought it with in court were just ridiculous. I can understand not wanting additional traffic and not wanting a 20 story building overlooking your house. But they were claiming things like foundation problems would occur and all sorts of nonsense. And then they got the city to bend the law to fight it. That left a bad taste in my mouth.

[bu2]

Originally Posted by WRM20

A 134 unit building isn't going to change traffic much at all. The 2019 daily traffic count from South Main to Shepherd on Bissonet was 15,000 vehicles. increasing that by 500(3.5%) isn't going to make much, if any difference.

I don't know what the statistics are, but it seems like high rise people drive much less than people in SFH or apartments. I just never see much traffic going in and out of these places during peak hours. A lot of second home owners maybe?

[LocalPlanner]

Originally Posted by bu2

I don't know what the statistics are, but it seems like high rise people drive much less than people in SFH or apartments. I just never see much traffic going in and out of these places during peak hours. A lot of second home owners maybe?

I'm sure these folks will drive just as much as the SF dwellers in the neighborhood. Which means, the impact on traffic just won't be that much. It would be way more if it was, say, an office building like the one that was built in River Oaks several years ago.

Rich people all over the city can't seem to handle the fact that the City doesn't regulate building height, apart from airport zones. These fights have occurred in River Oaks and Tanglewood. Even Frostwood, which moaned to high heaven when the first tall office buildings were built across their back fences back in the 1980s. There were some proposed multifamily towers near the Woodway / Voss / San Felipe area years ago, and homeowners across the Bayou in the Villages tried to find a way to sue to keep the buildings from going up. It's ridiculous and makes the complainers look pathetic.