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Old 04-29-2009, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Here and There
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A few years ago, tropical storm Allison dropped nearly 40" of rain on some parts of Houston. There were neigborhoods that flooded that had never flooded, and will never flood again. Many people didn't have flood insurance because their neighborhoods were not even near flood plains. It caused maps to be redrawn.

I own flood insurance because its cheap, and you just never know if some tropical storm is going to drop 40" on your house.
I guess that's my point to SBHubbell, it's cheap and you never know! Oh well, I can tell you that if we do move to Houston, we will definitely buy flood insurance! Just my opinion...
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Charleston Sc and Western NC
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350 dollars is worth not having the headache IMHO
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:43 AM
 
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IMO street flooding is directly related to how old the neighborhood is. those years of dumping lawn clippings and blowing debris into the sewers. there are also tell tale signs when you see the whole neighborhood has broken driveways - something had to give down there and if it shifted your driveway, i must have shifted sewer pipes and reduced its flow capacity.
I live in a 2 year old neighborhood and we do not have sewer thingers in the gutters but in the middle of the road so noone dumps stuff in if. anyway, the older neighborhoods behind my house was under water when we woke up while our streets are practically dry. Sure they have nice mature trees, plants and really big lawns but they always have problems

ummm I'm still not buying flood insurance
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:51 AM
 
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IMO street flooding is directly related to how old the neighborhood is. those years of dumping lawn clippings and blowing debris into the sewers. there are also tell tale signs when you see the whole neighborhood has broken driveways - something had to give down there and if it shifted your driveway, i must have shifted sewer pipes and reduced its flow capacity.
I live in a 2 year old neighborhood and we do not have sewer thingers in the gutters but in the middle of the road so noone dumps stuff in if. anyway, the older neighborhoods behind my house was under water when we woke up while our streets are practically dry. Sure they have nice mature trees, plants and really big lawns but they always have problems

ummm I'm still not buying flood insurance
I dont agree at all. I lived in Garden Oaks and it never flooded not even close. My house was built in 1942. The Heights does not flood.
My current 1968 house has never flooded.
It has nothing to do do with age and everything to do with proximity to bayous.
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:52 AM
 
Location: The land of sugar... previously Houston and Austin
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yes, I was talking to an enviromental engineer friend last night and he was saying the same thing. He feels it's possibly all the Cypress development that's causing a lot of it. He thinks Bridgelands is going to have major problems, and will cause the neighborhoods between it and I-10 to "go under" more often.
I have a friend in Bridgelands who posted pictures. They got lots of high water.

All of my friends on the northern side of town had problems as well.

Maybe First Colony / Sugar Land should be looked at as a model. We had zero problems. At least in areas I saw. They must be doing something right.
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Old 04-29-2009, 12:12 PM
 
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IMO street flooding is directly related to how old the neighborhood is. those years of dumping lawn clippings and blowing debris into the sewers. there are also tell tale signs when you see the whole neighborhood has broken driveways - something had to give down there and if it shifted your driveway, i must have shifted sewer pipes and reduced its flow capacity.
I live in a 2 year old neighborhood and we do not have sewer thingers in the gutters but in the middle of the road so noone dumps stuff in if. anyway, the older neighborhoods behind my house was under water when we woke up while our streets are practically dry. Sure they have nice mature trees, plants and really big lawns but they always have problems

ummm I'm still not buying flood insurance
I don't agree either. My house built in the 40's has never flooded.
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Old 04-29-2009, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Katy, TX
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I don't doubt that some old houses never flood, but at least here in Cinco Ranch, the flood control measures appear to me to be incredibly well designed, especially in the newer sections. Proximity to a bayou seems to have nothing to do with it, it's good engineering. Ditches all over the place...as ugly as they are...are working. Curved roadways with nice big stormdrains, sloped driveways with ledges. Even all the man-made retention ponds seem to have good drainage, they hardly fill at all. The Buffalo Bayou darn near doubled in height and was still well within its banks here. All I'm saying is that after going through Ike and now this, I'm not worried. Wind damage...yes, that worries me.
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Old 04-29-2009, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Visitation between Wal-Mart & Home Depot
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I dont agree at all. I lived in Garden Oaks and it never flooded not even close. My house was built in 1942. The Heights does not flood.
My current 1968 house has never flooded.
It has nothing to do do with age and everything to do with proximity to bayous.
Second. Willow Bend / Willow Meadows, mostly 1950's construction and no flooding. Bayou tributary runs through the neighborhood and it is high relative to most of Harris County. No substantial flooding during Allison either, some houses on the bayou got some water when it overran the banks.
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Old 04-29-2009, 12:24 PM
 
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I dont agree at all. I lived in Garden Oaks and it never flooded not even close. My house was built in 1942. The Heights does not flood.
My current 1968 house has never flooded.
It has nothing to do do with age and everything to do with proximity to bayous.
have you looked to find out if there was work done to update your ancient sewage system? I bet you they have overhauled that a few times already. and that this overhaul work is now due to the neighborhood (guessing 30-40 yo) behind my house. FYI we are not close to the bayous and the no retention pond had overflow issues (heck we got so many). each of the street flooding i've see are in old neighborhoods and are on city streets (not on newer gated communities). we possibly have the same sewage system, its just their 'bottleneck' is the drains right in front of their houses
I've been to older 'richer' neighborhoods and I almost always find a sewer contruction work on the lower part of a streetblock. thats debris clean up at the very least. it has nothing to do with the age of your house really
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Old 04-29-2009, 12:43 PM
 
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have you looked to find out if there was work done to update your ancient sewage system? I bet you they have overhauled that a few times already. and that this overhaul work is now due to the neighborhood (guessing 30-40 yo) behind my house. FYI we are not close to the bayous and the no retention pond had overflow issues (heck we got so many). each of the street flooding i've see are in old neighborhoods and are on city streets (not on newer gated communities). we possibly have the same sewage system, its just their 'bottleneck' is the drains right in front of their houses
I've been to older 'richer' neighborhoods and I almost always find a sewer contruction work on the lower part of a streetblock. thats debris clean up at the very least. it has nothing to do with the age of your house really
Right, then the older neighborhoods that have been maintained properly aren't necessarily going to flood any easier than a new subdivision, especially if the drainage wasn't done right there in the first place. The same stuff will happen underneath every development that pops up. New is the next old. You were planning on staying where you are for awhile, right?
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