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Old 04-19-2010, 08:51 AM
 
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not the most embarassing thing about Houston really.
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Old 04-19-2010, 09:22 AM
 
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Most of the people in Houston jails are not just there for having one or two joints on them.....
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Old 04-19-2010, 10:29 AM
 
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My pot thoughts: In my younger years, I was a passenger once or twice in a car where the teenage driver was too stoned to be driving. It was scary & stupid. Also, a girl in my freshman class died while driving stoned, she flew her car into a ditch full speed.

Weed is a mind altering drug (like booze). Too many people get behind the wheel after smoking pot and I don't want that legalized in Houston. =

Marijuana does not alter your mind to nearly the same extent as alcohol does, where you pretty much have no control.

I have some studies for you that driving stoned is nothing like driving drunk.
Effects of THC on driving performance, physiologic... [Accid Anal Prev. 2008] - PubMed result
http://www.iowatelecom.net/~sharkhaus/driving.html
Does Marijuana Impair Driving? (http://ezinearticles.com/?Does-Marijuana-Impair-Driving?&id=1550088 - broken link)
University Of Toronto Study Shows Marijuana Not A Factor In Driving Accidents


I highly, highly, highly doubt that a girl you knew died just from doing stupid by being intoxicated with marijuana. That sounds like something someone with no experience with marijuana would say. If you have no experience with marijuana and don't understand how its effects are, especially in contrast with alcohol, then you shouldn't spread negative, baseless propaganda against it. Comparing alcohol and marijuana is like comparing crack with nyquil.

What's funny is that I bet you, like most Houstons, have/DO enjoy alcoholic drinks regularly, even when alcohol is so much worse for you than marijuana on so many levels. Just because it's legal does not mean it's better for you. Houstonions patronize bars and give them legal licenses. Look at Washington ave.

Have you ever seen the shock trauma ward at Hermann on a Saturday or Sunday morning? All of the people nearly dead because they were in a horrible drunk driving accident? Everyone who has any experience with marijuana knows damn well that stuff like that does not happen if you are stoned.

If you are going to talk badly about something like this please at least be able to back it up instead of just regurgitating anti-drug propaganda commercials.

If you ask me, I'd feel much, much safer having the people I know and love smoke pot for recreation instead of drink alcohol at bars, because even if I get really, really stoned, I would never go into my car and drag race on the highway, get into fights, vomit my guts up, get a hangover, get raped, black-out, get arrested for DWI because of swerving or something, be really loud and annoy my neighbors, etc etc etc etc! What happens with pot? Your head feels funny, you get hungry, sleepy, and like to play music, video games, or watch movies. Which is worse?! Yet it's OK to overcrowd our jails with people who do nothing more than smoke a joint. Pathetic..

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Old 04-19-2010, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Maybe we should try something like that Sheriff (Joe Arpaio) in Arizona has done and set up a tent city for the inmates. Put them in pink jumpsuits and let them spend their days resolving never to return.
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Old 04-19-2010, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Houston, Texas
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I said weed is a mind altering drug. Um, because......it IS mind alteringl! I said "like booze" weed will alter your mind. I never said they have identical chemical properties shot per joint. You read my post & made that assumption incorrectly.

Yes I drink, but don't drink & drive. Those who do should go to jail.

Yes my freshman classmate was only high on pot when she side railed her car & died. Do you want to go to her parents home & ask for a copy of the HPD police report? It was really dim of you to assume it was "highly doubtful" this girl crashed her car & died only from being high on pot. Just a poor assumption.

Are you really telling a stranger on the internet that they must not have personal experience with pot? Simply because I don't want stoned people driving on 610?

My mary j experiences are non of your business but I just wanted to point out another dumb assumption, lol!

I realize that you can get more drunk than stoned. Nothing in my post said otherwise. But you assumed that was my message.

It is illegal to own pot or drive under a single hit of it's influence. I choose not to break the law.
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Old 04-19-2010, 11:39 AM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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My pot thoughts: In my younger years, I was a passenger once or twice in a car where the teenage driver was too stoned to be driving. It was scary & stupid. Also, a girl in my freshman class died while driving stoned, she flew her car into a ditch full speed.

Weed is a mind altering drug (like booze). Too many people get behind the wheel after smoking pot and I don't want that legalized in Houston. We already have enough people who can't even read the road signs in english. I don't want to add to Houston's current traffic nightmare by allowing more stoners on the roads than we already have.

My 2 cents. Bash away, I know it's comin' lol!

(Now for medicinal purposes, I'm all for that.....Chemo & like kind.)

The law is the law. Go to jail if you're caught breaking it. Let's build more jails. Houston is too big & too close to Mexico (which piggybacks us) not to expand the current jails. It just makes more sense as Houston grows too.
You must not know much about marijuana. Because, this doesn't make any sense at all. I've driven stoned before, and I concentrate much better. Things move slower. They even had a study of this in London. They had a guy drive around one of those courses they test new cars in, sober and then after smoking. Guess which score was higher (pun intended)?

What probably happened with that girl is the pot made her stupid sleepy.

People need to stop trying to put pot in the same category has tobacco, alcohol, and prescription drugs. Hell, prescription drugs are the WORST for you. Their side effects are horrible, and that's why its a hard time making pot legal. CVS and Walgreens aren't having that. What the hell are their pharmacists going to do?
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Old 04-19-2010, 11:43 AM
 
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Lizzy:
I dont think marijuana made the girl die. I don't believe it one bit. Having experience with marijuana personally and driving, and also with the wonderful links I supplied to you, I think it may have just been a tragic accident or she may have been on more than just marijuana. Sorry...people get into accidents all the time,even sober.

If you want to go through the trouble to obtain a police report of her death then please do so, but police reports aren't going to tell you that she was intoxicated unless she died with a joint or pipe in her mouth. You get information like that from an autopsy report/blood toxicology test. Even then, if it does say she was under the influence of marijuana, that does not mean that marijuana caused her to get into an accident, but something tells me that you have never seen this girls autopsy report.

So, you drink, but are anti-marijuana. Hypocritical much? Alcohol is so much more harmful to your body, so much more addictive (alcoholics regularly die from withdrawal if they go cold turkey), so much more debilitating, etc etc etc.

The law obviously doesn't know best because they allow people like you to drink yet not smoke marijuana.

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Old 04-19-2010, 11:47 AM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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I think the poster only supports alcohol and not pot because pot is illegal.
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Old 04-19-2010, 11:51 AM
 
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I think the poster only supports alcohol and not pot because pot is illegal.
Typical brainless anti-marijuana sentiment. Oh well. What can you do?
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Old 04-19-2010, 12:10 PM
 
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I said weed is a mind altering drug. Um, because......it IS mind alteringl! I said "like booze" weed will alter your mind. I never said they have identical chemical properties shot per joint. You read my post & made that assumption incorrectly.

Yes I drink, but don't drink & drive. Those who do should go to jail.

Yes my freshman classmate was only high on pot when she side railed her car & died. Do you want to go to her parents home & ask for a copy of the HPD police report? It was really dim of you to assume it was "highly doubtful" this girl crashed her car & died only from being high on pot. Just a poor assumption.

Are you really telling a stranger on the internet that they must not have personal experience with pot? Simply because I don't want stoned people driving on 610?

My mary j experiences are non of your business but I just wanted to point out another dumb assumption, lol!

I realize that you can get more drunk than stoned. Nothing in my post said otherwise. But you assumed that was my message.

It is illegal to own pot or drive under a single hit of it's influence. I choose not to break the law.
So if we leave the driving part out, what do you think of it?

I'll tell you something - if I smoke, the LAST thing I feel like doing is driving a car. Waste of a good buzz.
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