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Old 04-19-2014, 09:53 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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I don't know about older people being the more conservative, but I do find in my experience that conservatives are far more vocal in everyday, real life than non-conservatives. Maybe just the tea party types. But age doesn't seem to play into it.
I think your comment about who is vocal and who is not is a matter of perspective. I've been a libertarian since well before libertarianism became popular. I'm talking 30 years or more, back when few people had even heard of libertarians, much less be able to describe what that political perspective stood for. I've always felt the liberals/progressives are guilty of assuming that everyone agrees with them, and are oft found to make statements that imply that anyone who doesn't agree with their point of view is an ignorant rube.

I suspect that this reaction is a result of our own point of view because we don't find the statements that we agree with to be arrogant and overbearing, but those from a different perspective often seem that way.

Just my $0.02.

Dave

 
Old 04-20-2014, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Lakeside
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I think your comment about who is vocal and who is not is a matter of perspective. I've been a libertarian since well before libertarianism became popular. I'm talking 30 years or more, back when few people had even heard of libertarians, much less be able to describe what that political perspective stood for. I've always felt the liberals/progressives are guilty of assuming that everyone agrees with them, and are oft found to make statements that imply that anyone who doesn't agree with their point of view is an ignorant rube.

I suspect that this reaction is a result of our own point of view because we don't find the statements that we agree with to be arrogant and overbearing, but those from a different perspective often seem that way.

Just my $0.02.

Dave
That could be. I was pretty struck though, by the EKG guy in the ER. I don't care what your political leanings are, you don't mouth off about them in a professional situation and most certainly not in the ER.
 
Old 04-20-2014, 09:33 AM
 
Location: North Idaho
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That could be. I was pretty struck though, by the EKG guy in the ER. I don't care what your political leanings are, you don't mouth off about them in a professional situation and most certainly not in the ER.
I certainly agree with you in that situation.

In fact, I think in general we'd have a more civil society if folks of all political persuasions didn't make those sorts of challenging political statements around people they don't know. It's one thing to have a discussion with someone you know even if you disagree. It's quite another to make statements to strangers that unknowingly challenges their perspective.
 
Old 04-20-2014, 10:15 AM
 
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I certainly agree with you in that situation.

In fact, I think in general we'd have a more civil society if folks of all political persuasions didn't make those sorts of challenging political statements around people they don't know. It's one thing to have a discussion with someone you know even if you disagree. It's quite another to make statements to strangers that unknowingly challenges their perspective.
Especially if they're sick and worried. Sorry you guys had to go through that, Misty. What a jerk (the EKG guy).
 
Old 04-20-2014, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Lakeside
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Especially if they're sick and worried. Sorry you guys had to go through that, Misty. What a jerk (the EKG guy).
Thanks, CFF.
I thought about complaining to Bonner General but my husband doesn't like the thought of anyone possibly losing their job over being a twit. He's mellowing as he gets older. He's 4 years older than I am and I guess I haven't quite gotten there yet.
 
Old 05-12-2014, 05:13 PM
 
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Default Seattle suburbs are 'live and let live'

Regarding Seattle, I have found this to be a very live-and-let-live environment regardless of what point of view you come from. At least that's how it is in the suburbs. In general, people just leave you alone and let you live your life. I am very socially conservative and haven't had anyone be hostile towards me about it.

Thanks for sharing about the hostility in Idaho and the disdain of hearing about organic foods, eating healthy, etc. These things are important to me, and I had no idea that Idaho considers these ideas liberal. Since when is good health liberal?
 
Old 05-12-2014, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Lakeside
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Regarding Seattle, I have found this to be a very live-and-let-live environment regardless of what point of view you come from. At least that's how it is in the suburbs. In general, people just leave you alone and let you live your life. I am very socially conservative and haven't had anyone be hostile towards me about it.

Thanks for sharing about the hostility in Idaho and the disdain of hearing about organic foods, eating healthy, etc. These things are important to me, and I had no idea that Idaho considers these ideas liberal. Since when is good health liberal?
I love the Seattle area and have been spending a good bit of time north of there. I have found people to be extremely friendly and non-political. As far as Idahoans being disdainful of organic and healthy foods, I haven't experienced that at all. I live in a small, blue collar, logging town and our local grocery store has a wonderful selection of organic and health foods. No disdain at all!
 
Old 05-12-2014, 08:02 PM
 
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I have never found Seattle to be "friendly"...people wise, socially awkward, reserved coupled with strained politeness maybe, but although I found it near impossible to make solid friendships if you are not a nerdy, tatted up, ultra liberal type...at least Seattle always felt very live and let live. Whenever I have been to Coeur Delane though, I am always amazed at how genuinely warm and friendly, and receptive the folks there are, imo. Felt like two different worlds.
 
Old 05-13-2014, 06:06 AM
 
Location: Coeur d'Alene Idaho
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Regarding Seattle, I have found this to be a very live-and-let-live environment regardless of what point of view you come from. At least that's how it is in the suburbs. In general, people just leave you alone and let you live your life. I am very socially conservative and haven't had anyone be hostile towards me about it.

Thanks for sharing about the hostility in Idaho and the disdain of hearing about organic foods, eating healthy, etc. These things are important to me, and I had no idea that Idaho considers these ideas liberal. Since when is good health liberal?
A lot of the times the crowd that pushes the organic foods tries to ban anything that doesnt comply with it and thus forces everyone to adhere to their standards of what we should and shouldnt eat. I have no problem with more choices in almost any category, I just have a problem with the religion that organic food has become and how some who are caught up into it spend there time trying to force others to convert.

That being said, when I visited CDA area I noticed no real difference food wise regarding organic and all the other buzz words compared to that of southwest CT so I didnt really notice any disdain.
 
Old 05-13-2014, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Lakeside
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I have never found Seattle to be "friendly"...people wise, socially awkward, reserved coupled with strained politeness maybe, but although I found it near impossible to make solid friendships if you are not a nerdy, tatted up, ultra liberal type...at least Seattle always felt very live and let live. Whenever I have been to Coeur Delane though, I am always amazed at how genuinely warm and friendly, and receptive the folks there are, imo. Felt like two different worlds.
I meant the Seattle area, not the city itself. That seems pretty much par for the course with most big cities. Except Boston and NYC. Seattle is (in my opinion) much less aggressive. I find most western cities friendlier than eastern cities.
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