Colorado western slope vs Idaho panhandle mountain towns (Boise, Nampa: ski resort, apartment complex)

[dcisive]

I prefer to refer to myself as a "conservative". Simply NOT of the ilk of those coming out of other West Coast states trying to uproot our Idaho way of life. They too are "extreme" in their own right. I'm not hard right kind of guy either. Any extremism isn't good. But I'm also a product of the 50's where respect was inbred and the need and desire to WORK for your daily bread and living was not an option, it was an imperative. Today's society and government is all about support of "entitlement" , free this and free that. I certainly don't want a altogether Socialist society as we are certainly moving in that direction. Free checks for whomever. It's up for debate if any of us will remain alive over the next decade the way things are headed. All someone (like a Putin) has to do is hit that red button and we're ALL toast. Don't think it's impossible. His sanity is up for debate. That's all it takes. Then this discussion will be a moot point as we are all sickened by the radiation.

[Mister Torgue]

Originally Posted by TohobitPeak

The far right in Idaho is dangerous and divisive and toxic. Politics in Idaho used to be more kind and amiable. These people threaten other law makers, mayors, city council members and even police and doctors because they don't align with their radical ways. They go as far as going to homes and threatening family members of politicians that don't agree with.

The rise in population and moreso the extreme rar right radicals moving into the state are the cause of the vitriol that has exploded in Idaho recently. It's really sad.

What you just described can be attributed to the far left too. Both sides are two sides of the same uncouth vitriolic coin. Your post sort of proves my point, which is disappointing.

[TohobitPeak]

Originally Posted by Mister Torgue

What you just described can be attributed to the far left too. Both sides are two sides of the same uncouth vitriolic coin. Your post sort of proves my point, which is disappointing.

Respectfully, you are probably not familiar with Idaho politics especially the history of said politics. I'm a 5th generation Idahoan and quite aware of Idaho's political scene, where it's been and where it currently is.

The democrats in this state are actually level headed, nothing like the far and extreme right in Idaho. The radical right craziness has really ramped up the last few years. It’s disgusting and disgraceful and disappointing. Idaho is better than this.

Much of Idaho's Republican Party is "normal", it's the extreme whack jobs causing these issues. The tainted IFF is responsible for much of this.

People who want to move here need to educate themselves on Idaho's political makeup of all parties and not move here with political baggage and try to radicalize any party.

[Mister Torgue]

Originally Posted by TohobitPeak

it's the extreme whack jobs causing these issues

That is true everywhere. When you say the dems are “level headed” and reps are “normal” are you referring to multigenerational natives to the state or “whack jobs” who’ve relocated from places like CA or the east coast? I think there needs to be a distinction because there’s been quite enough of a exodus from certain blue and once red areas for a decade or two that all states out west aren’t the same as they one were and these extremes in both direction exist. I’ve seen it first hand here in Texas and a few of our neighboring states. This isn’t an Idaho specific problem in my opinion. But I digress. Thanks for the civil conversation.

[banjomike]

Originally Posted by TohobitPeak

Respectfully, you are probably not familiar with Idaho politics especially the history of said politics. I'm a 5th generation Idahoan and quite aware of Idaho's political scene, where it's been and where it currently is.

The democrats in this state are actually level headed, nothing like the far and extreme right in Idaho. The radical right craziness has really ramped up the last few years. It’s disgusting and disgraceful and disappointing. Idaho is better than this.

Much of Idaho's Republican Party is "normal", it's the extreme whack jobs causing these issues.

People who want to move here need to educate themselves on Idaho's political makeup of all parties and not move here with political baggage and try to radicalize any party.

I agree, Tohobit.

I'd also like to add a sidenote that applies to native Idahoans:

Both the Democratic and Republican parties have equally strong Libertarian streaks running through them, though each expresses the streak differently. One goes to the conservative side of the philosophy, while the other goes to the liberal side.

So in Idaho, the native birds of a different feather do flock together. That's how we all survive.
We flock because there's a lot more in common that we share than just politics. So we all tend to keep our political affiliation to ourselves until we get to know any stranger pretty well.

And because Idaho has always been an extreme place to live in, natives are naturally rather cautious, which makes us all more conservative in many of the things we do and think about.

So Idaho Democrats aren't like other Democrats. On the other side, this is also true with the Republicans.

Our newcomers and the outsiders really don't understand all this when they come here. It takes time living here to learn our ways.

There's been a lot of talk about how our politics here is changing. From my viewpoint as a native, I can see the politics could change, because we are living in times of great change.
But any changes that do come will come because Old Mother Idaho dictates them. She controls all her children, and always has.

We're all what Idaho made us. No group of humans can do it.

[Mister Torgue]

Originally Posted by banjomike

So in Idaho, the native birds of a different feather do flock together. That's how we all survive.
We flock because there's a lot more in common that we share than just politics. So we all tend to keep our political affiliation to ourselves until we get to know any stranger pretty well.

This is how I live my life. Being “in the middle” sometimes is seen negatively by the extremes of both sides (especially here in Texas) so I just treat everyone with respect and avoid these sorts of conversations in public. I’ve found that respect and live and let live goes along way with folks. I enjoyed my time last year when I got to meet and talk to natives of Idaho (along with Montana and Wyoming) when we visited. So I have no doubt I’d fit in.

[NearFantastica]

North Idaho is ruined, last I checked you can't buy a house for under $800,000 in that region anymore. Want to rent an apartment? good luck with that, the residents are NIMBY crazies who oppose building any apartments, the apartments that do exist in Coeur d'Alene/PostFalls are all like $1000+ a month. North Idaho is basically for rich conservative retirees at this point

[InTheMountains93]

Originally Posted by NearFantastica

North Idaho is ruined, last I checked you can't buy a house for under $800,000 in that region anymore. Want to rent an apartment? good luck with that, the residents are NIMBY crazies who oppose building any apartments, the apartments that do exist in Coeur d'Alene/PostFalls are all like $1000+ a month. North Idaho is basically for rich conservative retirees at this point

If apartments were around 1000$ that would be amazing I think it’s closer to 2000$ now if there are any…

[oregonwoodsmoke]

Originally Posted by NearFantastica

North Idaho is ruined, last I checked you can't buy a house for under $800,000 in that region anymore. Want to rent an apartment? good luck with that, the residents are NIMBY crazies who oppose building any apartments, the apartments that do exist in Coeur d'Alene/PostFalls are all like $1000+ a month. North Idaho is basically for rich conservative retirees at this point

Yes, it is getting crowded and expensive. Apartments are closer to $1600 a month ( and also available for a lot higher than that). You aren't going to find much for $1000 a month. However, I don't think there is too much objection to new apartments. If you drive around out in the countryside, you will see huge new apartment complexes being built.


The prairie is fast being paved over and the wide open spaces are starting to look indistinguishable from any suburb in Los Angeles.



I don't think North Idaho has ever been a cheap place to live. Plus there is a lot of additional cost of living that comes with dealing with all the snow an cold weather.


A big problem with all the overcrowding is that it can be impossible to enjoy the mountain trails or the lakes because the is no place to park the car while you go hiking or to park the boat trailer when you have the fishing boat out on the lake.

[CaptainSaltyBones]

Anyone have experience living in Priest River or Bonners Ferry?