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Here's what I do, but it's not to fight illegal immigration. I don't care as much about the illegal workers as I do their human rights. It's my fight against companies that choose to abuse people who have the least means to fight back.
I buy my produce from local growers when in season. When not in season I buy organic, and from a reputable grocery that takes account of like minded people. I actually check where the produce was grown before I buy.
I absolutely do not buy from Tyson, Simmons, Iowa Beef, Con-Agra, to name a few. How? I check what I buy before I buy. Plus, you will have to do a little research. There are many companies that are subsidiaries of Con-Agra. Con-Agra is freaking huge. I eat meat, but I buy sausages that are prepared in my state from a company with an ethical mission. I plan to go in with some other people to buy beef from a local rancher. (I don't need a whole lot of meat, and that's why I plan to go in with others since we have to buy a side or a 1/4 of a side).
I've eased myself away from the over processed, pre-packaged, box food. It's almost always produced by huge, corporate conglomerates. They don't need my money, and I don't want to give them one cent toward their unhealthy food. I know how to cook without everything coming in a pre-packaged box. So. I cook. Real food.
Am I 100% successful in my little battle against the food corporation giants? Of course not. But there are more and more people who are becoming more conscientious of food production. There are more urban environments that are beginning to grow local produce.
I do believe if people would stop supplying these companies with revenue then the companies would change their ways. They may not care about the ethical treatment of other humans but they do care about a buck. If losing a buck will hurt them then I will not buy from them.
We Americans have become lazy. Too many people would rather set their fat behinds at a computer and scream like mad-men about illegal immigrants than actually do something that would make a difference. People scream about the Mexicans 'takin' jobs from Americans' and when it's pointed out that Americans just ain't applying for many of these jobs then they make excuses as to why Americans aren't applying.
The next time you buy an over-sized chicken breast (yeah, they pump those chicks with growth hormones so they will grow big and grow fast) then you can thank a Mexican, because he butchered that chicken for you to buy it all nice, pretty and packaged.
The next time you bite into a steak. Thank a Mexican.
The next time you enjoy a tossed salad. Thank a Mexican.
Everytime you raise your voice against an 'illegal' just remember YOU are benefiting from his near slave labor. You would probably not be eathing if it weren't for a Mexican. So thank a Mexican!
You cannot have it both ways.
We can force this country to reform the immigration system to one that has forcible limits, and a fair guest worker program. Most Mexicans don't want to leave their country to live in this stinking country. They come because there are jobs. They come because too many Americans are too lazy to work the jobs they will work and be treated like trash by the companies that you are buying from. They come to save their lives and their childrens' lives. They are human. They are the humans that keep the slovenly, fat Americans eating.
We can work toward a reasonable solution, but that won't come by hysteria.
I see, you don't give a horse's patooty that these illegals are violating our immigration laws. You only care that they are being exploited by the greedy employers. You want the bank robber punished but not the guy driving the get-away car so to speak. I get it now.
How many times do you pro-illegals have to be told that there are few jobs, if any that Americans won't do for a fair wage and that with the presence of illegals here they are being cut out of those jobs? Americans are not lazy and I am sick of hearing that BS from the illegal alien apologists. We already have several guest worker programs in place and millions of Americans are out of a job right now.
A simple solution to ending the illegal hiring practices of the employers and stopping the illegals from coming here is by implementing e-verify in every workplace but the illegal alien apologists fight that tooth and nail because they want the employers punished but not the illegals. Your solution would only hurt this nation's economy because not all employers hire illegal aliens and you would be punishing them also. Many of those employers you mentioned have already been caught and now have legal workers on their payroll.
Take a deep breath, Chicagonut. Slow down, and relax.
Now think. Think about what the companies want that hire the illegal immigrants. They want your money. They want to use the cheapest labor possible. If we stop spending our dollars on the products that these companies produce for we consumers then they will change. They will change or they will fall. If you want to stop spending your dollars with them because they hire illegal labor and I stop spending with them because of humanitarian reasons it doesn't matter. They don't care. They only care about the dollar.
We can force this country to reform the immigration system to one that has forcible limits, and a fair guest worker program. Most Mexicans don't want to leave their country to live in this stinking country. They come because there are jobs. They come because too many Americans are too lazy to work the jobs they will work and be treated like trash by the companies that you are buying from. They come to save their lives and their childrens' lives. They are human. They are the humans that keep the slovenly, fat Americans eating.
As long as this (bolded above) is your attitude, I take anything you say with more than a grain of salt as you are obviously just here to push a pro illegal agenda. The fact they flout our laws are not on your agenda.
Well, you're here aren't you? I'm Native American, so ask me about illegal immigration. We've had the patience of a monk when 1000's were getting off of their boats; stepping onto Ellis Island, and hopes and dreams of a better life.
Why I do as I do does not matter. There is more than one route to the same destination.
Take a deep breath, Chicagonut. Slow down, and relax.
Now think. Think about what the companies want that hire the illegal immigrants. They want your money. They want to use the cheapest labor possible. If we stop spending our dollars on the products that these companies produce for we consumers then they will change. They will change or they will fall. If you want to stop spending your dollars with them because they hire illegal labor and I stop spending with them because of humanitarian reasons it doesn't matter. They don't care. They only care about the dollar.
You cannot have it both ways.
I am relaxed. What makes you think I'm not? Did I touch a nerve? Why are you continuing to make the same statements over and over about not buying any products when I already addressed that in my post? When are you going to address my other comments such as e-verify just for starters?
As long as this (bolded above) is your attitude, I take anything you say with more than a grain of salt as you are obviously just here to push a pro illegal agenda. The fact they flout our laws are not on your agenda.
Agreed. When the pro-illegals start claiming that Americans are too lazy to work those jobs rather than the fact that the employers just want cheap illegal labor instead and that the illegals are more than happy to violate our laws to accomodate them, there is no reasoning with them as they clearly don't have American's best interests at heart.
Well, you're here aren't you? I'm Native American, so ask me about illegal immigration. We've had the patience of a monk when 1000's were getting off of their boats; stepping onto Ellis Island, and hopes and dreams of a better life.
Why I do as I do does not matter. There is more than one route to the same destination.
Why should we ask you about "illegal" immigration just because you are native American? By the way, everyone including your ancestors came from somewhere else. The past is the past. Those people are all dead now. In these modern day times we and every other country in the world has the right to have and to enforce their immigration laws.
Right, there is more than one route to the same destination. One is within the law, and one isn't.
I tend to not believe pro illegals that claim to be "native americans", but that's just me. Maybe it's because people I know that ARE native americans are just as much against those who wish to stream across the border illegally and reap the benefits others have fought long and hard for as I am.
I tend to not believe pro illegals that claim to be "native americans", but that's just me. Maybe it's because people I know that ARE native americans are just as much against those who wish to stream across the border illegally and reap the benefits others have fought long and hard for as I am.
LOL, I'm half. My dad, fullblood Muscogee. This is a first: to be accused of not being NDN, and by a foreigner! heheheh, that's sort of funny, cuz I've been NDN long before the feds required verification via tracing our roll to an original 'allotee'. Oh yeah, I also find the 'you immigrated too' argument silly. Just how many thousands of years do you want to go back? 10,000? 12,000? 20,000? hehehhehehe.
Chicagonut, all of your questions were addressed in my IP. Just read rather than be so reactionary. Being higly emotional only accomplishes missing important information. In the IP, between me and the link provided it states there is a LEGAL way for farms to hire temporary foreign labor, but only ONE farm is doing this. If you read it, you would have known it. It has nothing to do with e-verify. e-verify is a moot point in this particular instance. Read, dear, and stop being so reactionary.
As for you question on Americans not taking the jobs these immigrant farm workers are doing.........if you had of read the article rather than having an emotional outburst you would have never asked the question in the first place.
I've read enough of you posts in my time at CD to know this is an ultra sensitive issue for you. Your logic has been failed by emotions.
I'm out of here. I will not pursue logical discussions with overly emotional men. Sheez, and they say women are hysterical.
Perhaps this explains why a whopping 75% of farm workers in this country are U.S. citizens or legal residents. Contrary to pro-illegal propaganda, only 2-4% of illegal aliens are picking crops.
Perhaps a better question is: Why are 96-98% of illegal aliens not interested in applying for these positions?
I am thinking that white collar prisoners or trustworthy ones could do a work/early release and work on the farms. We have the workforce in the welfare class as well, if we can pull them away from the internet.
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