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Old 01-30-2011, 08:19 AM
 
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If the father is a US Citizen, I don't see why we would pay for the child. The father is a taxpayer himself.
Then he should be given custody of the child and she should be deported. It doesn't sound like he cared enough for his wife to sponsor her as a legal immigrant, nor does he love her enough to live with her back in her country.

If she really cares more about US citizenship for the baby than she does about having custody - so be it. Let her relinquish custody to the child's father but I don't believe in cases like this that custody should always be denied the Mexican parent. Custody should go to the better parent and illegals who love their children should be allowed to take them back home with them.
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Old 01-30-2011, 08:49 AM
 
Location: So Cal
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If the father is a US Citizen, I don't see why we would pay for the child. The father is a taxpayer himself.
If she is here illegally, odds are the family does not have the money to enter the legal way. Even if the husband is a U.S. citizen, odds are the taxpayer will be footing the bill for the child. Not to mention, odds are they are on public assistance.
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Old 01-30-2011, 01:21 PM
 
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If she is here illegally, odds are the family does not have the money to enter the legal way. Even if the husband is a U.S. citizen, odds are the taxpayer will be footing the bill for the child. Not to mention, odds are they are on public assistance.
Big odds are that the only reason she cares about US citizenship is because of the public assistance.

This case makes no sense at all. If a child with two Mexican parents here illegally manages to be born here, the child supposedly has to be a US citizens. But if the mother gives birth in Mexico, then logically it's Mexican citizenship.

The argument that the father's citizenship is passed down before birth would negate the use of the 14th amendment to get around the legal immigration laws. That means all the children born to Mexican fathers also inherit their citizenship.

This case would not be a good one for the illegals to jump onto because they would be insisting that birthplace doesn't matter at all, only the citizenship of the parent, which is exactly why birth citizenship must end.
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Old 01-30-2011, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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Using this woman, married to a USC, and with the child's father being a USC, makes zero sense if they are promoting this case as one for NOT allowing the reinterpretation of the 14th as her child would fall under the reinterpretation as a USC anyway. Just shows how little these media types really understand about the issue. It's all about promoting the "sob stories".
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:54 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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If the biological Farther was a US Citizen, so would the kid.

And if that was the case, I don't this story would have been printed.
The article only say's that she married a US Citizen. Nothing about this US Citizen being the Father.
So I believe that she was knocked up by an illegal.

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Old 01-31-2011, 01:02 AM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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Except that under the law it is "assumed" as far as paternity goes that the husband IS the legal father............
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Old 01-31-2011, 01:07 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Except that under the law it is "assumed" as far as paternity goes that the husband IS the legal father............
A DNA test would show who's who.
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Old 01-31-2011, 03:43 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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If her husband is an american, why doesn't she just use that to apply for citizenship.
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Old 01-31-2011, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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If her husband is an american, why doesn't she just use that to apply for citizenship.
Exactly..

Like I've been saying...
This article is not telling the whole story.
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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She can only apply to adjust status based on her marriage to a USC if she entered this country LEGALLY and overstayed a visa. If she entered illegally she's SOL because there is NO WAY to adjust status while residing in the USA.
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