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That is exactly what you are doing. They are educated in the States and they go back to their homeland where they would eventually be compete with the States - doctors, scientists etc. This is about the immigration system in general not about the undocumented - more about those given the student visas.
But you said it was mandatory that chinese and Indian trained doctors and such HAVE to go back.....
Don't they make exceptions or anything ???
Seems pretty silly I mean we currently have a major nursing shortage in the U.S. but if we had a major DOCTOR shortage could they relieve those rules or would they actually have to get congress to change the law...
That is exactly what you are doing. They are educated in the States and they go back to their homeland where they would eventually be compete with the States - doctors, scientists etc. This is about the immigration system in general not about the undocumented - more about those given the student visas.
What is an "undocumented"? How will they be competing for jobs in our country if they are sent back to their homelands? The subject is still about the Dreamies, isn't it?
Very few illegals work in agriculture. Total agricultural jobs are only about 1 million with illegals holding up to 25% of these jobs - that accounts for only about 500,000 illegals at the very most but likely closer to 250,000.
It would be better to promote stability and growth in the sending regions -- and massive immigration certainly does not accomplish that. But also the USA cannot take in all the impoverished people of the world who would like to have a comfortable middle class standard of living.
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Could you list all these middle class jobs that these illiterate and unskilled illegals are taking away from Americans?
But you said it was mandatory that chinese and Indian trained doctors and such HAVE to go back.....
Where did I say they have to go back? I say its important to retain such talent in the country rather than send them back which is why the current immigration system needs to be reformed. Sorry if I did say that although I don't recall saying something of the sort!
Where did I say they have to go back? I say its important to retain such talent in the country rather than send them back which is why the current immigration system needs to be reformed. Sorry if I did say that although I don't recall saying something of the sort!
Reform? I wouldn't call giving amnesty to millions of illegals aliens a "reform". What are we "reforming"?
[quote] I do think illegals need to be controlled but deporting the good illegals (the ones I mentioned above) will certainly not be a benefit to the economy especially since the immigration system denies permanent residence to chinese and indians that are educated in the US - so they go compete against it - that is really what immigration officers should work on.
is this true ??? You mean we make doctors and stuff here and then make them go home ??? I guess what I'm really asking is are we really training people to compete against us ??? Why would we do that ? [quote]
I think this is what you were referring to possibly...what I meant to say was that immigration officers should work on retaining those educated in America such as foreign students granted study visas rather than send them back home when their degree is complete.
Ah I sense some inconsistency in the arguments then beause some posters have stated that graduates feel a drop in their wages (because of the undocumented) but you're here saying your husband earns even more than the average. Therefore having undocumented people should not be worrying from the aspect of wages of skilled labour, as they only put downward pressure on wages of certain skills.
Illegals fill primarily unskilled wage jobs.
Her husband, a LEGAL immigrant most likely has a highly skilled job that requires a professional degree, since most LEGAL immigrants fill jobs in sectors like engineering and technology that cannot be filled by citizens.
Her husband, a LEGAL immigrant most likely has a highly skilled job that requires a professional degree, since most LEGAL immigrants fill jobs in sectors like engineering and technology that cannot be filled by citizens.
THANK YOU! Yes, these pro-illegals are exhausting to deal with. Almost worse than trying to explain why you shouldn't touch a hot stove to an obstinate toddler.
[quote=M.1989;19796241][quote] I do think illegals need to be controlled but deporting the good illegals (the ones I mentioned above) will certainly not be a benefit to the economy especially since the immigration system denies permanent residence to chinese and indians that are educated in the US - so they go compete against it - that is really what immigration officers should work on.
is this true ??? You mean we make doctors and stuff here and then make them go home ??? I guess what I'm really asking is are we really training people to compete against us ??? Why would we do that ?
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I think this is what you were referring to possibly...what I meant to say was that immigration officers should work on retaining those educated in America such as foreign students granted study visas rather than send them back home when their degree is complete.
Sorry for the misunderstanding
Don't you think we should first determine whether or not we need these so-called good illegals? I am not sure we need them either. It isn't like we have a shortage of American professionals at least not that I know of.
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