I am really so torn on this issue. We should help but enforce too

[libertylover7]

Originally Posted by Eleanora1

You keep repeating this assertion, Olecapt, about most Americans but most Americans are not in favor of amnesty as you are. The problem is that pandering pols, arrogant foreign nationals and greedy employers have all conspired to ignore the American will on this issue.

Your definition of doing something is amnesty for them, free college tuition for their kids and welfare access at every turn as they cannot afford to live here without it. Legal immigrants most certainly have the right to complain when those who skip the lines and acccepted procedures demand things from them. Native born Americans have every right to join them.

Myth after myth after myth.

Over 60 percent of Americans prefer a solution with a citizenship path whether with or without further enforcement. Under 40% prefer an enforcement only approach. Note that a large minority would be sufficient to defeat an enforcement only proposal.

Public Favors Tougher Border Controls and Path to Citizenship - Pew Research Center

That article also points out that less than 40% support a constitutional change for birth right citizenship. That would need well more than a majority to ever happen.

No one is proposing free college except the antis...

[Liquid Reigns]

Originally Posted by libertylover7

The majority of the Hispanic-Amerincans were born in the USA.

Births are far greater than immigration from 2000 to 2010...conveniently not present in your chart.

The Mexican-American Boom: Births Overtake Immigration | Pew Hispanic Center

The question and the point was that the "Hispanic" population ballooned since mid '80's. Whether the majority were born here or not only proves my point further, the population increased due to prior amnesties, but you can continue to argue inane points you somehow thing relevant.

[Liquid Reigns]

Originally Posted by libertylover7

NV, FL and AZ were all heavy service industry states and all had huge home construction industries.

All lost about the same percentage of illegal population. And the others all lost lesser percentages.

One would rationally presume economy was the big factor as it is the only common one.

AZ and FL heavy in Service Industry? they have little service industry compared to NV. AZ and FL are both farming dominant states. As I stated in my first comment, the economy plays a smaller role in these states than it did in NV. Your failure is in recognizing anything other than the economy, there is a forest if you look at it beyond the single tree in your vision.